Warnes open letter

[wendun]

What p*sses me off is how pathetic our fans are. The guy walks for a bigger pay packet and it's all misty-eyed 'we luv you, Paul' on social media. It's like a wife whose husband dumps her for a younger woman saying he was so good and it was inevitable he'd do better than me. Well screw Warne. He was always overrated on MM and he'll never achieve anything in management. Good riddance.

[CAMiller]

What p*sses me off is how pathetic our fans are. The guy walks for a bigger pay packet and it's all misty-eyed 'we luv you, Paul' on social media. It's like a wife whose husband dumps her for a younger woman saying he was so good and it was inevitable he'd do better than me. Well screw Warne. He was always overrated on MM and he'll never achieve anything in management. Good riddance.

Given the circumstances he did a decent job and left us in a better position than we were in when he started so thanks for that. He's moved on, so should we. Paul who?

(PS Does Derby constitute managing at a higher level and win me my half pint bet? )

[wendun]

Given the circumstances he did a decent job and left us in a better position than we were in when he started so thanks for that. He's moved on, so should we. Paul who?

(PS Does Derby constitute managing at a higher level and win me my half pint bet? )

Yes, Cam, I tend to be hyperbolic, I know. It's a character flaw of mine. But I never liked his style of football, I never liked his 'good people' ethos and I always suspected he was a bit of a loser. We'll see how he does in the real world.

[Nardendee]

A very Warne-like letter. But missing one thing - the reason for leaving.

Whatever money it is, that they leave to L1 and not a Champ team says quite a bit about their confidence in their ability at managing at Champ level, even with a better budget. You'd think if they left a stable job here it would be to prove they can be better at this level with a competitive budget. But not doing so may imply that not having a competitive budget at RUFC isn't the reason for leaving. And thats what I don't get. Yes, a massive pay rise, but a wage increase to Derby would be similar to moving to most Champ teams. So why to L1 and not to a Champ team.

He’s not proven in the championship. Right now all Derby are worried about is getting out of League 1

[mellowmiller]

£250k a year for 4 years.

Eh? Has he taken a pay cut then?

[mellowmiller]

Well Warney certainly has a lot more class than some of the saddos on here.

[ragingpup]

What p*sses me off is how pathetic our fans are. The guy walks for a bigger pay packet and it's all misty-eyed 'we luv you, Paul' on social media. It's like a wife whose husband dumps her for a younger woman saying he was so good and it was inevitable he'd do better than me. Well screw Warne. He was always overrated on MM and he'll never achieve anything in management. Good riddance.

I don't think we should take too seriously any person who honestly thinks there is any similarity between a manager leaving a club and a man leaving a wife.

Garbage. Utter garbage. Even more so than usual from you and that takes some garbaging!

[Redshank]

Yes, Cam, I tend to be hyperbolic, I know. It's a character flaw of mine. But I never liked his style of football, I never liked his 'good people' ethos and I always suspected he was a bit of a loser. We'll see how he does in the real world.

Finally, you cut through all the nasty, uncalled for vitriol and raise a reasonable point with your very last sentence. Whatever any of us think of the man or his style, there will be absolutely no hiding place at Derby. Credit to the guy for having the guts to give it a go, whatever the reasons.

[ragingpup]

I think it's quite a well written and sincere message from Warne. The main negatives on here seem to have difficulty distinguishing between the fact that a man can have a strong affinity with an organisation, through being a player and a manager over many years, yet still have the objectivity to make a call for eith/both personal ambition and financial security and leave that club whilst being genuinely sad and still retaining a love for that club. I really don't see why that should be so hard to fathom.

I remember Ronnie Moore getting a whif of the Norwich job whilst in his pomp here with us and he was halfway down the A1 before he realised he'd been pranked. However, that same guy stood by himself, completely by himself in the top of the stand after the Gillingham win to watch all players and fans milk the celebration for all it was worth. Just enjoying a great success for a club that he deeply loves, but as with Warne, chose to leave when offered a hallucinatory opportunity. It's just real life, and real humans with mixed feelings making complicated decisions.

His reasons: It's really, really simple and he doesn't need to spell it out. At the Millers, a manager has to work within a budget that makes us safe in the long term. This obviously restricts how far we can go and Warne has done wonders to get us here, so huge thanks to him for that. But obviously Derby can offer much better pay, better facilities and if he is successful a chance in a high profile club where he will have a better chance of getting the recognition that he will feel he deserves a shot at after 6 years with us. It is a risk, but not financially and he knows that. Good luck to him, and now we move on. Thanks for the memories Warney.

[CAMiller]

I think it's quite a well written and sincere message from Warne. The main negatives on here seem to have difficulty distinguishing between the fact that a man can have a strong affinity with an organisation, through being a player and a manager over many years, yet still have the objectivity to make a call for eith/both personal ambition and financial security and leave that club whilst being genuinely sad and still retaining a love for that club. I really don't see why that should be so hard to fathom.

I remember Ronnie Moore getting a whif of the Norwich job whilst in his pomp here with us and he was halfway down the A1 before he realised he'd been pranked. However, that same guy stood by himself, completely by himself in the top of the stand after the Gillingham win to watch all players and fans milk the celebration for all it was worth. Just enjoying a great success for a club that he deeply loves, but as with Warne, chose to leave when offered a hallucinatory opportunity. It's just real life, and real humans with mixed feelings making complicated decisions.

His reasons: It's really, really simple and he doesn't need to spell it out. At the Millers, a manager has to work within a budget that makes us safe in the long term. This obviously restricts how far we can go and Warne has done wonders to get us here, so huge thanks to him for that. But obviously Derby can offer much better pay, better facilities and if he is successful a chance in a high profile club where he will have a better chance of getting the recognition that he will feel he deserves a shot at after 6 years with us. It is a risk, but not financially and he knows that. Good luck to him, and now we move on. Thanks for the memories Warney.

I was about to write something similar so saved my fingers raging

I don't think PW has 'flounced' off because of budgetary constraints, his working relationship with TS is such that he's always known what they were and understood the boundaries TS wanted to work within to keep the club on an even keel. After 6 years in the job I think he's realised that he doesn't want to get to 60, still be at RUFC working under the same conditions and think 'what if?'. So he's decided now is a good time to challenge himself at a bigger club (and they are a bigger club) and instead of wondering 'what if' he'll actually find out. RM was in the same situation all those years ago but unfortunately for him the Ipswich 'opportunity' turned out to be a hoax but I bet he still wonders how he would have done if he'd have ever gotten the chance to test himself at a higher level.