Well Done MT

[caytonmiller]

You can't compare like-for-like. Taylor inherited a much better squad that Warne. I appreciate that's a subjective view, but if you think they are similar then tell me why.

Lee camp
Woody
Kirk Broadfoot
Darnell fisher
Ben purrington
Will vaulkes
Lee frecklington
Joe Newell
Richie Smallwood
Danny ward
Clark Harris
Dom ball
Yates
Semi ajayi..
Carlton morris

Are you telling me the present squad is better than what warne had a available? Plus how many of these were sold to championship clubs.
There are similarities in the two squads. Warne didn't have the fire power just like Taylor doesn't.
I don't buy the we were 8th before warne left argument. What was the actual points difference?. Then take in the injurys,. Illness and barlaser/ogbene going through the motions.

[Masbroughstreet]

Anybody could see before Warney left it was only a matter of time before we dropped down the table. Defence it's never been right all season. No big striker good enough.

The defence wasn’t right? When he left after 9 games we had 5 cleans sheets and had only conceded 6.

[Masbroughstreet]

Lee camp
Woody
Kirk Broadfoot
Darnell fisher
Ben purrington
Will vaulkes
Lee frecklington
Joe Newell
Richie Smallwood
Danny ward
Clark Harris
Dom ball
Yates
Semi ajayi..
Carlton morris

Are you telling me the present squad is better than what warne had a available? Plus how many of these were sold to championship clubs.
There are similarities in the two squads. Warne didn't have the fire power just like Taylor doesn't.
I don't buy the we were 8th before warne left argument. What was the actual points difference?. Then take in the injurys,. Illness and barlaser/ogbene going through the motions.

Warne never had Camp because he was injured when he took over and he didn’t inherit Ajayi, Morris or Purrington, he signed them so that’s only a fair comparison after MT has had a transfer window to improve his squad.

[caytonmiller]

Hear is stats relating to the warne left us in 8th place Vs now we're just outside the bottom 3.

Warne left on the 22nd sept. We were 8th on 14 points.
At that time Bristol were on the same points in 9th,.
Hull were 3 points behind us in 19th
Wigan were 1 points behind us in 12th Blackpool were 3 points behind us in 20th
and huddersfield were 7 points behind us in 23rd

[Brin]

Great fire. If your putting a balanced view on Taylor's 20% win rate. You have to put Paul warnes 1st season he took over as a comparison.

Buddy, can't see how you can compare these two sets of first year stats. This team that Taylor currently has is twice the team that Warne inherited. Warne had a total clear out when he took over. Maybe Taylor is thinking the same and needs to by the time our best players leave?

Depending what Stewart supplies Taylor and who comes and goes, only then can we honestly give an opinion on Taylor's performance.
Should we go down, we are RUFC *cough*, then I believe that Taylor should be afforded the same opportunity as Warne to turn it around next season.

Stewart won't be happy at losing £5.1Million in EFL revenue but that's the facts and difference between League 1 and the Championship so what is Stewart prepared to do to assist Taylor? That's the big question.

[caytonmiller]

Buddy, can't see how you can compare these two sets of first year stats. This team that Taylor currently has is twice the team that Warne inherited. Warne had a total clear out when he took over. Maybe Taylor is thinking the same and needs to by the time our best players leave?

Depending what Stewart supplies Taylor and who comes and goes, only then can we honestly give an opinion on Taylor's performance.
Should we go down, we are RUFC *cough*, then I believe that Taylor should be afforded the same opportunity as Warne to turn it around next season.

Stewart won't be happy at losing £5.1Million in EFL revenue but that's the facts and difference between League 1 and the Championship so what is Stewart prepared to do to assist Taylor? That's the big question.

How can you say the team is twice the team that warne got.

Looking at the names mentioned. Are you saying bramhall/Ferguson are better than mattock/purrington.
Are you saying peltier and Harding were better than fisher (can't think of whoelse played RB. Maybe vaulkes)
Are you saying old woody and Humphreys are better than young wood and ajayi.
Are you saying barlaser rathbone and wiles
Were better than vaulkes, frecklington and Smallwood.
Are you saying Kelly, eaves, Washington and ogbene were better than Morris, ward odemwingi and Clark Harris.

Twice the team is a bit of an exaggeration though I could argue Taylor's stats are two e that of warnes

[Yak]

How can you say the team is twice the team that warne got.

Looking at the names mentioned. Are you saying bramhall/Ferguson are better than mattock/purrington.
Are you saying peltier and Harding were better than fisher (can't think of whoelse played RB. Maybe vaulkes)
Are you saying old woody and Humphreys are better than young wood and ajayi.
Are you saying barlaser rathbone and wiles
Were better than vaulkes, frecklington and Smallwood.
Are you saying Kelly, eaves, Washington and ogbene were better than Morris, ward odemwingi and Clark Harris.

Twice the team is a bit of an exaggeration though I could argue Taylor's stats are two e that of warnes

Bang on the money Cayton well said.

[caytonmiller]

The defence wasn’t right? When he left after 9 games we had 5 cleans sheets and had only conceded 6.

Agree with masbrough. The defence was the only thing sorted.
You only have to look at the games warne was in charge. Most of the stats represent the opposition team having atleast twice the amount of shots at goal compared to us. Some a lot more

game Vs Middlesbrough 13 then 3 us
QPR 17 them 6 us
Preston 21 them 5 us.

[gru]

Camp & Fisher didn't want to play for us. Squad we've got now how many would have got in one when Warney took over? Victor Chioe. Midfield Vaulks & Frecks at that time were immense. Ward JCH what we'd give for them at same stage of their career then to be here now. ps I'm not 100 % certain who was here when Warney took over so could be wrong on some of players being here then.

[caytonmiller]

Warne never had Camp because he was injured when he took over and he didn’t inherit Ajayi, Morris or Purrington, he signed them so that’s only a fair comparison after MT has had a transfer window to improve his squad.

He did but he also only had 4 weeks before the transfer window opened so didn't have to endure the old managers team for long.