Rapist Met Officer - Carrick

[mickd1961]

Hardly a graduate Mick joining a company with 10 staff! Now on to operations as you have mentioned it - five years medical training after a good medical degree! Your not going to get a no achiever in an operating room unless he/she is on the night shift cleaning staff!

Whatever floats anyones boat! I only see graduates in large corporate companies with around 1000 staff. Proper separate graduate recruiting dept - all done properly - and graduates usually end up at the top. Any company advertising for a graduate with less than fifty staff - well it’s not a graduate FFS.

Still say those best qualities in life are work ethic and personality. Nobody will get far if they are a boring c unt and if you have work ethic - you will look at ways to make money!

Your not going to make money by working for the pathetic minimum wage so hats off to those who start selling on eBay etc or pinching someone else’s concept from business and provide a better service. That’s life!

What do you mean by “hardly a graduate”...?

You don’t know him, he was a graduate with a Masters.

I don’t get what you’re driving at?

[baggieal]

What do you mean by “hardly a graduate”...?

You don’t know him, he was a graduate with a Masters.

I don’t get what you’re driving at?

Many class a graduate employee as the graduate scheme at a large corporate blue chip brand with over 500 employees where they can circulate around every department including - marketing - sales - operations - HR - pricing - shop floor - senior management to name just a selection. The whole point in a successful company ie TUI U.K. a graduate employee is selected from up to 1000 other candidates with a 2.1 to be fast tracked for future senior management or director level. This was why I used the example of David Burling who started as a graduate and now running the Board. A mega bright individual and known for it!

I am not talking about the terminology that every university leaver is a graduate because they graduated with a degree or a small company of 50 or less employees who decide to call a vacant position a graduate where the pay is peanuts. That’s not a proper graduate scheme! Bit like a small company owner using the title CEO which is slightly different to a CEO of say John Lewis.

So in the case of the person who came to you - he was a university leaver who graduated with a masters.

Most university leavers who have graduated can’t get on to a large blue chip company’s graduate scheme as it’s almost impossible - in many cases there are hundreds of applicants all with a 2.1. So these companies hardly f uck up their graduate recruitment. That’s my point!

Think we are talking about different things! We had a university leaver working for us to gain work experience too but apart from graduating with a 2.2 - he was picking and packing.

Everyone must take their own road and decide what’s best for them. I will say though - a good education or degree can never be taken away and many can fall back on it. Know a 32 year old with a degree who’s just decided to go into teaching and she can be fast tracked.

Education or university is not for everyone. We have a family member who was as thick as a pile of s hit but a fantastic work ethic. He refused to work for the pathetic minimum wage and learnt how to do resin driveways. Now with a team of around 30 he’s on the way to being seriously minted.

[mickd1961]

Many class a graduate employee as the graduate scheme at a large corporate blue chip brand with over 500 employees where they can circulate around every department including - marketing - sales - operations - HR - pricing - shop floor - senior management to name just a selection. The whole point in a successful company ie TUI U.K. a graduate employee is selected from up to 1000 other candidates with a 2.1 to be fast tracked for future senior management or director level. This was why I used the example of David Burling who started as a graduate and now running the Board. A mega bright individual and known for it!

I am not talking about the terminology that every university leaver is a graduate because they graduated with a degree or a small company of 50 or less employees who decide to call a vacant position a graduate where the pay is peanuts. That’s not a proper graduate scheme! Bit like a small company owner using the title CEO which is slightly different to a CEO of say John Lewis.

So in the case of the person who came to you - he was a university leaver who graduated with a masters.

Most university leavers who have graduated can’t get on to a large blue chip company’s graduate scheme as it’s almost impossible - in many cases there are hundreds of applicants all with a 2.1. So these companies hardly f uck up their graduate recruitment. That’s my point!

Think we are talking about different things! We had a university leaver working for us to gain work experience too but apart from graduating with a 2.2 - he was picking and packing.

Everyone must take their own road and decide what’s best for them. I will say though - a good education or degree can never be taken away and many can fall back on it. Know a 32 year old with a degree who’s just decided to go into teaching and she can be fast tracked.

Education or university is not for everyone. We have a family member who was as thick as a pile of s hit but a fantastic work ethic. He refused to work for the pathetic minimum wage and learnt how to do resin driveways. Now with a team of around 30 he’s on the way to being seriously minted.

I still don’t get what point you were making about the graduate I employed?

What did you mean by “hardly a graduate”?

You don’t even know the bloke!?

[baggieal]

I still don’t get what point you were making about the graduate I employed?

What did you mean by “hardly a graduate”?

You don’t even know the bloke!?

Read the post as clear! We had a university leaver working for us too! Only a graduate in the sense of graduating with a degree like 99.9% of other uni students. Not a graduate in the sense of having been successful by getting on the graduate scheme of a large blue chip brand. We would be a laughing stock if we advertised for a graduate position with 19 staff. That’s my point and two very different topics and definition of ‘ graduate ‘

I will graduate my way through Skipton tomorrow on the way to Burnley but a graduate I’m not 😂😂

[mickd1961]

Read the post as clear! We had a university leaver working for us too! Only a graduate in the sense of graduating with a degree like 99.9% of other uni students. Not a graduate in the sense of having been successful by getting on the graduate scheme of a large blue chip brand. We would be a laughing stock if we advertised for a graduate position with 19 staff. That’s my point and two very different topics and definition of ‘ graduate ‘

I will graduate my way through Skipton tomorrow on the way to Burnley but a graduate I’m not 😂😂

My definition of “graduate” is based on the person having “graduated” through Uni in the same way a “Blue Chip” “graduate” will have “graduated”.

My point being, there are crap “graduates”, some of whom fail to get decent jobs abs others that somehow get jobs which are beyond their capabilities.

The same way that ordinary people get promoted above their abilities.

My point is that being a “graduate” is absolutely no guarantee that they are going to be any use whatsoever.

[baggieal]

My definition of “graduate” is based on the person having “graduated” through Uni in the same way a “Blue Chip” “graduate” will have “graduated”.

My point being, there are crap “graduates”, some of whom fail to get decent jobs abs others that somehow get jobs which are beyond their capabilities.

The same way that ordinary people get promoted above their abilities.

My point is that being a “graduate” is absolutely no guarantee that they are going to be any use whatsoever.

Totally agree with you but we are clearly talking about two different things. Every university leaver is a graduate so bit like comparing a medical student who graduated with a first as the same as a knitting student who also graduated with a first.

I was talking about the very difficult to get on - graduate schemes with huge blue chip brands. Not every graduate can apply as most schemes require a 2.1 and even then - there could be up to 1,000 applicants. This was I said companies like Asda and TUI rarely get their chosen applicants wrong and they are fast tracked to the top.

So two different subjects you dithering old sod.

I do agree with you though - many that leave university don’t have the work ethic. Only lazy
f uckers get up later than 8am!!!

[Omegstrat6]

I'll just clarify my own position here regarding graduates. I am not inherently knocking graduates and I'm not "bitter" because I began my career (in FMCG retail management as it happens) as one. What I am saying is that I have witnessed a decline, particularly over the past decade, in the quality and skill sets of managers in this sector and I am not alone in believing this. Much of this is not down to the graduates themselves but the companies who have cut down on training as part of over-all cost saving exercises. As a Union rep I speak to colleagues who work for competing companies and they say the same. Moreover, from conversations I have had with those in other sectors, the story seems much the same.

Of course you can get on through hard work and ability without having gone to university but when you pay extra for graduates you are buying potential. But that potential needs to be nurtured and developed and too often this doesn't happen as it once did.

As for the conversation around poorer work ethics, communication skills, "wokeness" and issues with dealing with conflict and challenges I think I'll leave this one for others to discuss.....😁

[gazan]

Returning to the main point of the thread, does anyone else get adverts with women posing submissively (on this site) alongside captions such as "we won't tell'. It's no wonder the Met Officer got away with things for so long and that Tate gets such a following.