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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    I'd say it's scary as radical Islam is incompatible with western "values".
    That's very true. but are all Muslims radical Islamists? That's equivalent to saying all Jews are radical Zionists or that all Catholics support the IRA.

    I'm not so sure and reckon you're talking less than 5%, but of course that percentage are the ones doing all the shouting whilst the vast majority just want to live, work, live, repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    That's very true. but are all Muslims radical Islamists? That's equivalent to saying all Jews are radical Zionists or that all Catholics support the IRA.

    I'm not so sure and reckon you're talking less than 5%, but of course that percentage are the ones doing all the shouting whilst the vast majority just want to live, work, live, repeat.
    They are definitely not all radical Muslims, but they are Muslin before they are British, and if you cross one Muslim brother you cross them all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainlanddee View Post
    They are definitely not all radical Muslims, but they are Muslin before they are British, and if you cross one Muslim brother you cross them all
    Not even close to true - within Islam there are multiple sects who are constantly 'warring' with each other, over their own interpretation of the teachings of the Quran, their beliefs and their practices. It's very much a tribal thing where if you cross one lot the other lot will back you all the way - until you disagree with them of course then they hate you.

    Sunni, Shia, Sufism are a few quick examples of Muslim sects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Not even close to true - within Islam there are multiple sects who are constantly 'warring' with each other, over their own interpretation of the teachings of the Quran, their beliefs and their practices. It's very much a tribal thing where if you cross one lot the other lot will back you all the way - until you disagree with them of course then they hate you.

    Sunni, Shia, Sufism are a few quick examples of Muslim sects.
    So what Muslim faction is backing the Israeli invasion of gazza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    That's very true. but are all Muslims radical Islamists? That's equivalent to saying all Jews are radical Zionists or that all Catholics support the IRA.

    I'm not so sure and reckon you're talking less than 5%, but of course that percentage are the ones doing all the shouting whilst the vast majority just want to live, work, live, repeat.
    Most are peaceful but how many speak out against the radical islamists.....very few

    It's almost a rent a mob down in England......how many Muslims have came out in support of Batley teacher.....none that I'm aware of.

    Most see their loyalty towards their imaginary God and their religion rather than their country.......some people may think that's no bad thing but I do.

    We are lucky at the moment in Scotland but for how long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Most are peaceful but how many speak out against the radical islamists.....very few

    It's almost a rent a mob down in England......how many Muslims have came out in support of Batley teacher.....none that I'm aware of.

    Most see their loyalty towards their imaginary God and their religion rather than their country.......some people may think that's no bad thing but I do.

    We are lucky at the moment in Scotland but for how long?
    We had mob rule in Scotland in the run up to the 2014 Scottish Independence referendum when the YES supporters were in my opinion out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainlanddee View Post
    In any Muslim v no Muslim conflict , Muslims will always back each other , british Muslims, in my opinion are Muslims first and British 2nd , I have a couple of Muslim friends who openly admit this
    That's how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    That's how I see it.
    British Muslims

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    There are also Christian Arabs.
    I’ve watched the crowd at Tannadump for years and they don’t seem very Christian to me.

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    Friend of mine is Iranian and Muslim. He grew up in a relatively free Iran and hated being Muslim, he wanted to be Christian. Cost a fortune to get him and his wife out of Iran and he left a £200,000 plus house and a decent amount of savings behind. His wife had to have his written permission to get a passport, he then had to give his written permission for her to get a visa and leave the country. They still tried to stop them leaving.

    Strangely he's now desperate to gain British citizenship, not because he hates Britain or wants to bring his wife and ten kids here as some would have you believe they all want (they don't have kids) but because he wants to cut all ties with Iran and his Muslim heritage. Poor guy's torn up because his sister's still there under an extremely oppressive regime that think she's lower than a dog (quite literally). He has no leverage to get her out of Iran, again contrary to what many think they do.

    But if you believe some of the the absolute shiite being spouted on here he'd side with any Muslim in a fight against any non Muslim just because he's a Muslim. Absolutely bonkers.

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