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    Quote Originally Posted by hissingdwarf View Post
    As someone mentioned earlier, threads like this do no good for the soul as it is a reminder that over my 45 years of supporting, I've witnessed some real rubbish managers at the Lane!

    Always surprises me how high someone like Keith Curle is on lists like this. My resounding memory from his period was...we were bloody boring...so surprised to see how well we actually did on reflection.
    Curle's HOME PPG ratio for the 2nd season he was in charge (his last 14 games at Meadow Lane) dropped down to 1.29, which is the same as Derry's overall home PPG.

    Away, Curle's overall PPG was 1.82, which is the 3rd best of all time behind Cotterill and Kevan(2nd spell). Russell Slade incidentally is the worst ever manager on the road with an appalling 0.13 PPG and 88% away loss rate.

    Fullarton was the worst ever at home on 0.20 after completing just 5 Meadow Lane fixtures, though Maynard currently has an identical home record (W0 D1 L4) but with -7 GD as opposed to Fullarton's -8.

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    I thought it was a massive risk when Maynard was appointed.
    Done nothing of note in his career and it appears my suspicions were correct.
    Absolute rammel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmysirrelsmassivetooth View Post
    I thought it was a massive risk when Maynard was appointed.
    Done nothing of note in his career and it appears my suspicions were correct.
    Absolute rammel.
    How many outstanding candidates were there out there? If Mike Williamson were still at Gateshead, he’s have been a shoo-in for the job (if he wanted it), and he’s now doing a great job at Franchise FC (alas). The guy at Crawley would have been my preferred choice, but may have been tough to get.

    The way things are going, we may be having the same speculation about a new manager in a few months anyway.

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    I don’t think it matters now what happens. Even if we win the last 11 games, storm the playoffs and go up, the good will has gone and the first sign of problems would bring all the old arguments out again. Worst manager our not, I don’t see any future for SM at Notts, the fans won’t have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Magpie View Post
    I don’t think it matters now what happens. Even if we win the last 11 games, storm the playoffs and go up, the good will has gone and the first sign of problems would bring all the old arguments out again. Worst manager our not, I don’t see any future for SM at Notts, the fans won’t have it.
    Of course they’ll have it if that scenario happens. What you mean is, you’ve made up your mind, and you won’t have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Magpie View Post
    I don’t think it matters now what happens. Even if we win the last 11 games, storm the playoffs and go up, the good will has gone.
    Couldn't disagree more, if that happened the goodwill would be 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Magpie View Post
    the first sign of problems would bring all the old arguments out again.
    Of course it would, that's how footy fans work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nw6pie View Post
    How many outstanding candidates were there out there? If Mike Williamson were still at Gateshead, he’s have been a shoo-in for the job (if he wanted it), and he’s now doing a great job at Franchise FC (alas). The guy at Crawley would have been my preferred choice, but may have been tough to get.

    The way things are going, we may be having the same speculation about a new manager in a few months anyway.
    SM is a nice guy and I think he can probably coach a decent system, but the big issue is that loads of data analysis doesn’t get you a manager who can motivate quality players like JJ and McGoldrick and one who has the respect of the squad. That takes proper leadership and good decisions based on experience. The Bros have got this one very wrong. We need an LW upgrade not an LW trainee.
    Yes players need to take responsibility but owners need to appoint the next step up, not a rookie who’s never won anything and has no EFL experience. I doubt any of the players were impressed by SM’s appointment and they all now know the game is up - it’s human nature.
    We won’t get promotion with SM ever and so the Bros’ need to swallow their pride and get a an experienced caretaker in who can protect our position for next year in terms keeping the good players and retaining good crowds before it’s too late.
    It’s sad for SM as he’s a genuine bloke but he’s the wrong man, wrong time, wrong place. He’s reduced the goals conceded slightly but blunted our attack and killed the feel good factor. You can see it on the players faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignLegion View Post
    Of course they’ll have it if that scenario happens. What you mean is, you’ve made up your mind, and you won’t have it.
    Actually, I think he could turn it around if he’s given time. He seems to see the problems, he’s prepared to try things and as I said elsewhere, our style requires a lot of practice and new patterns will take time to bed in, but I understand everyone else’s mind is made up and you don’t come back from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Magpie View Post
    I don’t think it matters now what happens. Even if we win the last 11 games, storm the playoffs and go up, the good will has gone and the first sign of problems would bring all the old arguments out again. Worst manager our not, I don’t see any future for SM at Notts, the fans won’t have it.
    That's far too bleak. Fans are fickle both ways.

    To quote your words, if we won the last 11 games, stormed the play-offs and went up, with the squad as it is, the fans would be singing Stuart Maynard's praises from the rooftops and the critics would be so deep in their worm holes you wouldn't be able to see them.

    Now granted, they would soon surface again if we lost the next few games after that. It happened with Luke Williams even after his incredible achievements, and to Warnock back in the day, but sadly that's football fans for you. It's why club owners shouldn't be swayed too much by fans' petulant, childlike short-term mood swings. That's where Trew and Hardy went wrong.

    I'm not saying for one moment that I think Maynard will go on the run of wins you're using as an example - it would be astonishing in the current context. My view is that SM has clearly had a very poor start and he desperately needs some better results soon, otherwise the owners will indeed begin having as many doubts as the fans, but as a Notts supporter I really hope Stuart Maynard can turn things around.

    Why would anyone who calls themselves a Notts County fan want anything else? A win tomorrow night alone would lighten the mood a little.

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    You all must have realised that Warnock jacked the Aberdeen job in so he could mentor SM? It's clear as day the Bros have been on the phone to him and given him the chance to be the hardman part of the Notts answer to Clough and Taylor! The only thing to be agreed is renaming the Kop, Neil wants "The Warnard KOP" while Stu wants "The Maynock KOP"
    Last edited by SmiffyPie; 11-03-2024 at 08:10 PM.

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