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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballcock View Post
    Can't agree with Army that the Premier league as moved on a few notches, not having it.

    Pace shoulders a lot of blame by giving Kompany the nod on youth instead of experience, with Kompany getting it dreadfully wrong.

    Sheffield United spent nothing.
    Didn't Sheff.Utd spend on
    Cameron Archer 18M
    Gustavo Hamer 15M
    Vinicius Souza 13M
    Austin Trusty 6M
    Traore 6M
    🤷*♂️

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    This season we under achieved against the top teams in the UK but with a bit of luck we could have stayed up. VK has shown his worth in the Championship so we have to give him a chance at redemption. I don't think League 1 beckons but if he doesn't get us back up the 5 year plan is up that place where you lose your paddles.

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    Dyche has worked miracles at Everton. Remember the club sold their 2 best players Richarlson and Gordon over the last couple of seasons.
    Premier league survival is all about being strong at the back with clean sheets, something Kompany didn't get.

    Dyche has always built his sides on a strong defence with hard work off the ball, in closing down. Dyche would have kept us up, but not with the Kompany signings who haven't been good enough, and never will be good enough to play the Kompany or Dyche way

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    Just for the record army88, not for one minute did I ever say or think we would find the EPL a walk in the park. I'm on record on here as saying 17th would have done for me.

    The gulf between the Championship and the EPL is enormous, but would Muric, Roberts, THB, Beyer, Maatsen, Brownhill, Cullen, JBG, Anass, Benny and Tella have kept us up?

    I think they would have given the chance they deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Just for the record army88, not for one minute did I ever say or think we would find the EPL a walk in the park. I'm on record on here as saying 17th would have done for me.

    The gulf between the Championship and the EPL is enormous, but would Muric, Roberts, THB, Beyer, Maatsen, Brownhill, Cullen, JBG, Anass, Benny and Tella have kept us up?

    I think they would have given the chance they deserved.
    Problem is, BT, that out of those players you have listed, one did not want to come here, City would not sell another one, Southampton didn't want to deal with us one another, one has been out injured most of the season, one has been deemed by our own fans as nowhere near good enough, in spite of the fact that he has played 152 games in 4.5 seasons for us including 111 in the PL, another one is evidently a very bad time keeper. That is over half a team before you start.
    Conor Roberts is another player who seemingly does no want to be here and was loaned to Leeds where he started just 3 matches, two of which they lost. He came on as sub in 10 matches and played a total of 168 minutes in those.

    Bottom line os that the manager picks the team that he thiks should be able to do the job after doing whatever they do in training. With the results this season it is my opinion that the recuitment was poor, however, we do not know whether there are influences within the club who had a big influence on that and could well have in the future if it remains status quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    Problem is, BT, that out of those players you have listed, one did not want to come here, City would not sell another one, Southampton didn't want to deal with us one another, one has been out injured most of the season, one has been deemed by our own fans as nowhere near good enough, in spite of the fact that he has played 152 games in 4.5 seasons for us including 111 in the PL, another one is evidently a very bad time keeper. That is over half a team before you start.
    Conor Roberts is another player who seemingly does no want to be here and was loaned to Leeds where he started just 3 matches, two of which they lost. He came on as sub in 10 matches and played a total of 168 minutes in those.

    Bottom line os that the manager picks the team that he thiks should be able to do the job after doing whatever they do in training. With the results this season it is my opinion that the recuitment was poor, however, we do not know whether there are influences within the club who had a big influence on that and could well have in the future if it remains status quo.
    All I know mein freund is I saw the Clarets in action in 41 games in the Championship winning season and they were a joy to watch. I'd have moved heaven and earth to keep them together but what do I know what goes on behind the scenes?

    For the record I think Berge, Koleosho, O'Shea, Esteve, Amdouni and Odobert have been marvellous additions. If Kompany can keep them together we will walk the Championship and no messing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    All I know mein freund is I saw the Clarets in action in 41 games in the Championship winning season and they were a joy to watch. I'd have moved heaven and earth to keep them together but what do I know what goes on behind the scenes?

    For the record I think Berge, Koleosho, O'Shea, Esteve, Amdouni and Odobert have been marvellous additions. If Kompany can keep them together we will walk the Championship and no messing.
    You forgot Assignon,Benson and Bruun Larsen BT.Twine had a good loan season apparently-maybe ready now for a starting role.Berge will be gone unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Twine had a good loan season apparently-maybe ready now for a starting role.
    Not sure about that CiB, Hull didn't seem too fussed when he went to Bristol City in January. 6 goals in 29 starts for those two clubs, and this a player who was scoring virtually every other game for MK Dons, 20 goals in 44 starts. He still doesn't seem even close to the player we thought we were signing two years ago.

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    Apart from the poor results one of the big disappointments for me is the lack of improvement of so many players. Some have even gone backwards. Why would Amdouni and Benson want to stay at BFC ? The only player we have who can regularly beat a man is Odobert who is expected to spend so much time at the wrong end of field. Players have only so much energy and dribbling is tiring. Muric gives a goal away through trying to stop a ball with the sole of his boot, a few games later he is doing exactly the same thing. In general shooting has been poor passing wayward. It's not that we need rocket science to correct these things just proper repetition.
    I was at Leeds utd once watching the coach Sid Owen run a practice session with a GK and a FB at each end of a large rectangle. The FB had to drive the ball across the diagonal over SO who stood in the middle to a GK who took the ball out of the air then fed his FB who did the same across the other diagonal. The players were unknowns. Bremner, Charlton etc were on another field. The speed was not casual with SO constantly shouting to the FBs left foot, right foot. I watched for about 20 mins and not once was there a miskick. I realize that this is not likely the practice one would see today but the point is the desired technique had been achieved. The two FBS could drive a ball with either
    foot 60 yds with good accuracy. The great Hungarian team of the late 50's practiced in the same vein, repetition to near perfection. I could be wrong but I can't imagine that happening at BFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I think VK got seriously lucky with Beyer, THB, Maatsen & Tella combined with Anass & Benny firing on all cylinders.

    I hope he gets so lucky in the 2024/25 season.
    I'm guessing by that logic you think he got seriously unlucky with Trafford , Amdouni, Foster, Ramsay & Tresor ?

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