Who have you voted for?

[baggieal]

Contradicting yourself there 123.

We had net migration of around 1.4m over the past two years, in many communities such as where I used to live it’s the incoming migrants who’ve put unbearable stress on public services.

How can we possible allow in around 750,000 people a year when we can’t build anywhere near the 350,000 new homes we need each year?

Also, when does this stop?

At this rate, in 20 years we’ll have another 15 million people living here, in 100 years it’ll be 75 million additional people and the population will be more than double what it is now.

It’s untenable.

I constantly ask people like yourself where do you set the limit?

Seemingly you don’t?

I don’t understand, I just don’t understand?

Good post Mick! Clearly the French people have had enough and it’s why Trump will most likely get back in! Yet still many in the good old U.K. are blind to the problem,

On another note - will Sunak donate his life PM salary of 150K plus a year to the needy when
he resigns? Surely the greedy t wat of one of the countries richest families won’t want to keep this!

People with money are usually the greediest
t wats around!

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

Whilst I agree about the quality of the politicians being the requirement, the big issue for me is how we choose these politicians.

How were Johnson and Corbyn the leaders at the last election?

People who go far in politics do so because they know the right people, particularly in the media and they play the media/PR card (see Boris Johnson) or they are backed by a large Union (see Corbyn). These things should not be a precursor as to how far you should rise within your party.

I'd like to see more cross party decisions. And I'd like to see smarter people who have real life experience in parliament. Boris Johnson / Corbyn are career politicians. Rishi Sunak is an extremely wealthy guy who was parachuted into a safe seat a few years ago.

I don't know how it would be resolved or the full answer to the question, but the system needs to change to encourage the right type of politicians we have representing us. Not just one's like Corbyn and Johnson. PR seems like a good start to me.

If the polls are correct with 16% of the votes Reform would get 100+ seats. Good idea?

And just from a shear numbers point of view it's not illegals that are the major problem it's legal immigration 700k v 50k approx. Does anyone think this is sustainable? And why can't we get a grip of it?

[baggieal]

If the polls are correct with 16% of the votes Reform would get 100+ seats. Good idea?

And just from a shear numbers point of view it's not illegals that are the major problem it's legal immigration 700k v 50k approx. Does anyone think this is sustainable? And why can't we get a grip of it?

Because too many in this country are too woke! Are the French racists? If Trump gets in many who vote for him will know he will stop illegal immigration. Are more than 50% in the USA racist? On both accounts - of course they are not.

We need a proper points system in place as there’s no such thing as a free lunch! If Le Pen gets in and with tougher laws in Germany - there will be an absolute stampede for the U.K.

How can our public services cope? They can’t!

[WBA123]

Contradicting yourself there 123.

We had net migration of around 1.4m over the past two years, in many communities such as where I used to live it’s the incoming migrants who’ve put unbearable stress on public services.

How can we possible allow in around 750,000 people a year when we can’t build anywhere near the 350,000 new homes we need each year?

Also, when does this stop?

At this rate, in 20 years we’ll have another 15 million people living here, in 100 years it’ll be 75 million additional people and the population will be more than double what it is now.

It’s untenable.

I constantly ask people like yourself where do you set the limit?

Seemingly you don’t?

I don’t understand, I just don’t understand?

As 923 points kind of points out, the people coming here illegally are the minority. Legal migration is the majority.

Stopping the boats would stop about 2% of the people who come here. It's barely worth even mentioning.

One of the biggest issues we have in this country is the ageing population. We need younger people to work, because the number of older people in the country is increasing. The birth rate of British citizens is not increasing (because we're not exactly encouraging young adults to have children - which is another topic entirely) so where do we find people of working age to come in and do the working jobs we need to get done?

We have god knows how many refugees in hotels, unable to work who we're paying for. Why? Why not give them a temporary working visa? I bet most of them are bored out of their brains and want to work. We have fruit that needs picking, hospitality roles, refuse collector jobs - we have almost a million job vacancies. Yet, we have 100k people sitting doing nothing in hotels. I bet some of them will get pushed into the black market and crime in order to earn some cash. The current strategy is bonkers.

The Tories have cut public services to the bone. I read that over 800 libraries have closed since 2010. Is that immigrants fault?

Immigrants are an easy scapegoat for Govt's who break public services. And most people who come here want to work and earn money. So why not let them?

[WBA123]

If the polls are correct with 16% of the votes Reform would get 100+ seats. Good idea?

And just from a shear numbers point of view it's not illegals that are the major problem it's legal immigration 700k v 50k approx. Does anyone think this is sustainable? And why can't we get a grip of it?

If that's how the country votes, then that's how it votes. I'm not a Reform fan, and I don't know why anyone would vote for them but is it fair right now that Reform could get 16% of the vote, yet only have 1 or 2 MPs out of 650?

[mickd1961]

As 923 points kind of points out, the people coming here illegally are the minority. Legal migration is the majority.

Stopping the boats would stop about 2% of the people who come here. It's barely worth even mentioning.

One of the biggest issues we have in this country is the ageing population. We need younger people to work, because the number of older people in the country is increasing. The birth rate of British citizens is not increasing (because we're not exactly encouraging young adults to have children - which is another topic entirely) so where do we find people of working age to come in and do the working jobs we need to get done?

We have god knows how many refugees in hotels, unable to work who we're paying for. Why? Why not give them a temporary working visa? I bet most of them are bored out of their brains and want to work. We have fruit that needs picking, hospitality roles, refuse collector jobs - we have almost a million job vacancies. Yet, we have 100k people sitting doing nothing in hotels. I bet some of them will get pushed into the black market and crime in order to earn some cash. The current strategy is bonkers.

The Tories have cut public services to the bone. I read that over 800 libraries have closed since 2010. Is that immigrants fault?

Immigrants are an easy scapegoat for Govt's who break public services. And most people who come here want to work and earn money. So why not let them?

I didn’t mention the word “illegal” in my post, it’s immigration in general that’s killing us.

If you think the majority of these migrants are coming here to pick fruit (if offered the chance) you’re deluding yourself.

In my office at work today I had a very open chat with my staff about the election, this was management through to warehouse lads.

We vote across the spectrum usually so I thought it was an interesting debate.

Every single one of them was more p I s s e d off about immigration and the 700,000+ a year nett arrivals from elsewhere.

It wasn’t confined to criticism of the Tories either, they were scathing about Starmer and Labour, incredulous to Ed Davey’s campaign and disliking the nasty taste that Reform leave in their mouths and yet they were mostly heading for Reform or the Libs.

I repeat my question though 123……how can you contemplate an extra 15m UK residents by the time you hit my age in your early 60’s?

Are you happy for up to 1m people arriving in the UK each year?

Would you impose no points system of any kind?

[baggieal]

If that's how the country votes, then that's how it votes. I'm not a Reform fan, and I don't know why anyone would vote for them but is it fair right now that Reform could get 16% of the vote, yet only have 1 or 2 MPs out of 650?

Why do you think Le Pen may get in? One of the key things Trump wants to stop is illegal immigration and he will probably get in. Are all those Americans wrong in your eyes?

Brexit was a huge mistake as it drove away all those hardworking EU workers but many couldn’t distinguish between EU and non EU people coming in. Sounds awful to say it but why did those who were retired vote on the younger generations futures when it could not impact on them?

[phild]

Ed Davey clearly stated on the radio that 'women have a pen1s"

[phild]

The Greens have a great candidate up at Sheffield Hallam - jason leman

[WBA123]

I didn’t mention the word “illegal” in my post, it’s immigration in general that’s killing us.

If you think the majority of these migrants are coming here to pick fruit (if offered the chance) you’re deluding yourself.

In my office at work today I had a very open chat with my staff about the election, this was management through to warehouse lads.

We vote across the spectrum usually so I thought it was an interesting debate.

Every single one of them was more p I s s e d off about immigration and the 700,000+ a year nett arrivals from elsewhere.

It wasn’t confined to criticism of the Tories either, they were scathing about Starmer and Labour, incredulous to Ed Davey’s campaign and disliking the nasty taste that Reform leave in their mouths and yet they were mostly heading for Reform or the Libs.

I repeat my question though 123……how can you contemplate an extra 15m UK residents by the time you hit my age in your early 60’s?

Are you happy for up to 1m people arriving in the UK each year?

Would you impose no points system of any kind?

I said originally stopping the boats wasn't a priority to me. Which is still the case. Because it gets all of the attention and is a small fraction of the number of people who come here.

If you think people want to come here to sit in hotels you're deluding yourself. People come here because they want a better life. Most of them want to work.

We obviously need an immigration system. My point is that we need young adults to come here and work because of the demographic of the country. Carry on as we are and in 15 years we won't have anyone to take the bins out.

I would genuinely re-join the EU, and look to entice Europeans here - a lot of whom are early 20s and hard working. They contributed economically. And I would try to reduce the numbers of non-EU immigrants, according to the numbers they do not contribute as much economically. This is all easier said than done, but re-joining the EU would be the first thing I'd do.