Rhys McCabe

[Handsup]

2013 JMac, 2015 Mixu, 2016 McKinnon, 2017 Laslo, 2018 Neilson, 2020 Mellon, 2021 Tam, 2022 Ross, 2022 Fox, 2023 Goodwin. Is it 10 managers in 10 years?

I’ll be honest, I greeted most of these appointments with a degree of optimism, bitterly cold occasions with insipid football on display. That said I thought, McKinnon & Tam, should have stayed (and Houstie!) and were in one way or another harshly treated by club (and/or fans).

Mellon? Nice guy did his job but it didn’t work out. Mixu, Laslo and Ross were catastrophic. Neilson? Nothing we could do about that!

Had a quick rake through WiKi at our managers page, the last decade is the most managers we have churned through in our history…ever! Probably the most expensive time in football history to pay severance to sacked managers and back room staff, and players…who then need replacing! We are posting loses of millions…if it continues it will be existential.

This bleak picture suggests we are a f*cking Graveyard for managers and probably players as well, not something that you SHED quickly! (See what I did there?)

Ultimately as we all know it’s about results, and that remains to be seen, but JG has delivered so far, if we stay clear of relegation trouble this season, he’s done an excellent job, and ffs can we let the club stabilise for a few years, without listening to the blowhards who want to sack everyone?

[moicher]

he did the exact same thing at Aberdeen brought in a load of players - couldn't get them to play

- I was at the Falkirk game and we got totally outplayed and out thought that day. If it wasnt for a wonder strike of a FK and Ayr unbelievably not scoring goals against Buckie we would have been out of the League Cup (we got lucky)

- Last season he got schooled tactically by a number of managers with squads that cost a fractions of ours.

- Last season despite having the most expensive squad in the championship we were really struggling. He was getting pelters and boo'd off the park. So much so he had to abandon the way he was setting them up to just play a 4-4-2 and hoof it up to the 2 big men.

- The number of times last season he started of playing a system and had to change it 15 mins into the game because it wasnt working.

- I've seen enough of Goodwin to know he is a very poor tactical manager and will get found out and soon. its just a matter of time, mark my words

"- The number of times last season he started of playing a system and had to change it 15 mins into the game because it wasnt working."

when was that like?

[moicher]

2013 JMac, 2015 Mixu, 2016 McKinnon, 2017 Laslo, 2018 Neilson, 2020 Mellon, 2021 Tam, 2022 Ross, 2022 Fox, 2023 Goodwin. Is it 10 managers in 10 years?

I’ll be honest, I greeted most of these appointments with a degree of optimism, bitterly cold occasions with insipid football on display. That said I thought, McKinnon & Tam, should have stayed (and Houstie!) and were in one way or another harshly treated by club (and/or fans).

Mellon? Nice guy did his job but it didn’t work out. Mixu, Laslo and Ross were catastrophic. Neilson? Nothing we could do about that!

Had a quick rake through WiKi at our managers page, the last decade is the most managers we have churned through in our history…ever! Probably the most expensive time in football history to pay severance to sacked managers and back room staff, and players…who then need replacing! We are posting loses of millions…if it continues it will be existential.

This bleak picture suggests we are a f*cking Graveyard for managers and probably players as well, not something that you SHED quickly! (See what I did there?)

Ultimately as we all know it’s about results, and that remains to be seen, but JG has delivered so far, if we stay clear of relegation trouble this season, he’s done an excellent job, and ffs can we let the club stabilise for a few years, without listening to the blowhards who want to sack everyone?

I think that's pretty reasonable . We all want what we unlikely to get. Any manager that gets us to win every week is not going to be our manager in a year. Realistically we should be top 6 as its our budget. The club has to be greater than the sum of its parts to do better that budget dictates.

[PT_Arab]

Had a quick rake through WiKi at our managers page, the last decade is the most managers we have churned through in our history…ever! Probably the most expensive time in football history to pay severance to sacked managers and back room staff, and players…who then need replacing! We are posting loses of millions…if it continues it will be existential.

Not disagreeing with you, but I'm assuming there would not have been anything paid out to Neilson, Mellon or Courts as they left of their own accord. Also not sure about Mixu - was he not on a contract 'til the end of that season, which was simply not renewed?

Either way, it's still a rake of managers to get through and hugely expensive as some of these would have involved paying off assistants as well.

[Webster6]

Jim Goodwin will be gone by october.

Rhys McCabe's stock continues to grow and he will be offered and take the first bigish job that will come along.

I think Goodwin will be the first to go so can see McCabe as our new manager. Can wait to see us have a plan and play good football between the thirds.

100% agree.

[Arabs4ever]

Given who Goodwin has gone and out and signed this season I think he realised the football last year was awful but it did the necessary in getting promoted. He is clearing out all the players that have been around too long. I think Levein did this as well.

We have more options this season. We have tremendous pace down the left-hand side. We have players who can deliver a ball that is dangerous. Give Goodwin his due he is building something that has many parts to it. Not just a one-trick pony. I like this new formation he is working with because the central striker is getting support. Although at times I would like to see a two-pronged central strike force against the OF, Hearts, Sheep and Dundee. Keep both their centre-halves occupied by having two v two.

If Goodwin sets up the team to genuinely have a go at winning games and we get beaten I'd take that. Pissing about with possession, going nowhere and then getting beaten I'm not so keen on that.

[cybershed]

This the first season that JG has had any room to really put his stamp on the squad. But even now his budget is still constrained by the crazy contracts and signings that Asghar oversaw/made happen.

He took over a total ****fest,and even yet this season we still have a couple of '1st team wage' players on the books that surely would be gone by now if they weren't on such long and lucrative contracts.

Don't get me wrong, I've questioned his tactical nous on many occasions. I've really yet to be convinced that he has the ability.to read, counter and make tactical changes the way wee Jim knew how to do it.

But, I've resolved to giving Goodwin a good quarter of the season to see how his SPL team works out before I start thinking of a change. Stability helps breed success. Look at McKinnes at The Sheep and now at the Killie Pies!

I'm quite confident that some of our new imports will acclimatise to this league quickly and show they some quality at this level. And I'm looking for Ross Graham to establish himself as Dundee United captain material.

Sorry for going on. Blame the San Miguels!

Cheers fellow Arabs - Sunday cometh... FTD

[geofoxposse]

Although i am not necessarily a JG love fan, he has a lot of work ahead of him, and logistically we cant just keep binning managers, we have to hold faith even if it brings tears. Unless of course we occupy last place from the outset and dont improve.

[arab777]

Thats my point, any success is despite goodwin not because of him. I'll just bookmark this for a few weeks time and see how short your memories are.

Right its been a few weeks. Since you started this thread United have gone unbeaten against 4 Premiership clubs, in the QF of The League Cup and a decent transfer window. Airdrie are sitting 3rd bottom of The Championship, including losing 5 to Ayr and papped out the League Cup after a 6-1 defeat to Dundee. How do you think it is gong?

[GUNBOAT]

Right its been a few weeks. Since you started this thread United have gone unbeaten against 4 Premiership clubs, in the QF of The League Cup and a decent transfer window. Airdrie are sitting 3rd bottom of The Championship, including losing 5 to Ayr and papped out the League Cup after a 6-1 defeat to Dundee. How do you think it is gong?

He will be appointed in 5 weeks time.