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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Perhaps you can enlighten this yank on Harrises policies? In fact, you can educate all of us Americans. We all need something in writing

    Just some policies on those “ minor details” such as budget, taxes, military, education, border, education, legal system, law enforcement, transportation, trade or immigration

    Please make sure you have in writing and citations to the source and content. If you find in on her website let me know the link. I’d like to read up on those
    He can't, the dog (or maybe it was the cat) ate it.... then someone ate the dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    You know fcuk all about US politics too - who would have thought it …..,


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    All a bunch of cnuts the lot of em...the one running our country at the moment looks like being the biggest cnut of all time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Perhaps you can enlighten this yank on Harrises policies? In fact, you can educate all of us Americans. We all need something in writing

    Just some policies on those “ minor details” such as budget, taxes, military, education, border, education, legal system, law enforcement, transportation, trade or immigration

    Please make sure you have in writing and citations to the source and content. If you find in on her website let me know the link. I’d like to read up on those
    Ok, it's not as detailed as the Project 2025 spiel (and nowhere near as scary), but as you mention it, herewith the "Issues" section from Harris website. Makes a f00king sight more sense than the drivel from Trump (such as the very recent suggestion that there be no taxation paid on overtime payments (who funds that little "gift", or would you suggest the Federal government borrows more to pay for it, that old chestnut of public funding again?).

    https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

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    Not too worried about funding the losses in taxes on overtime. There is none going on in this country right now. I wish we had the concern of losing that tax revenue

    You do realize that taxing unrealized capital gains destroys the economy quicker than any thing any government has ever devised? Taxing a business owner on assets they have accumulated to fund running the business destroys the incentive to even own a profitable business. It’s never been done before in anything but third world countries and feudal caste systems

    Unfortunate your personal hatred and inability to actually study what the candidates policies are blinds you to the truth. It’s also unfortunate you believe the tripe published by journalists and propagandists. Trump had no more to do with project 2025 than you did. It has nothing to do with him. You may wish to assume that anything published by journalists and the US government is a lie until you can independently verify it. You will be much more factual and correct that way.

    Harris had one title in her current role in this administration. She was “border czar”. We have 20,000,000+ illegal aliens that have come in during her one single job. None of the are vetted, tested for illness, pledged loyalty to our country or have any proof they can work or function in society. They are the dregs of the world. Based on that performance alone she is more unfit to serve in any goverment position based on that job performance than just about any politician in the US.

    You should go ahead and vote for her. Several of our states have no requirements for proof of citizenship, identity, residency or even if you are living. They will be happy to mail you a ballot and allow you to vote. It’s a real testament to the integrity of our elections in this country

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    I won't testify to being up to speed on on US politics, Spaldy....but Trump is still an ahole of a human being regardless! 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Not too worried about funding the losses in taxes on overtime. There is none going on in this country right now. I wish we had the concern of losing that tax revenue

    You do realize that taxing unrealized capital gains destroys the economy quicker than any thing any government has ever devised? Taxing a business owner on assets they have accumulated to fund running the business destroys the incentive to even own a profitable business. It’s never been done before in anything but third world countries and feudal caste systems

    Unfortunate your personal hatred and inability to actually study what the candidates policies are blinds you to the truth. It’s also unfortunate you believe the tripe published by journalists and propagandists. Trump had no more to do with project 2025 than you did. It has nothing to do with him. You may wish to assume that anything published by journalists and the US government is a lie until you can independently verify it. You will be much more factual and correct that way.

    Harris had one title in her current role in this administration. She was “border czar”. We have 20,000,000+ illegal aliens that have come in during her one single job. None of the are vetted, tested for illness, pledged loyalty to our country or have any proof they can work or function in society. They are the dregs of the world. Based on that performance alone she is more unfit to serve in any goverment position based on that job performance than just about any politician in the US.

    You should go ahead and vote for her. Several of our states have no requirements for proof of citizenship, identity, residency or even if you are living. They will be happy to mail you a ballot and allow you to vote. It’s a real testament to the integrity of our elections in this country
    So you don't mind funding the taxes foregone on untaxed overtime by increases in government lending? You don't borrow to fund opex, you borrow to invest. We had a (very) short-lived Conservative (our equivalent of your Republican party) PM who suggested the contrary, she ended up costing millions of UK citizens untold billions collectively in increased interest payments on loans and mortgages when the markets tanked following her one and (thankfully) only budget. She is now making a very healthy living on the speaking circuit in the good old US of A!

    I don't hate Trump, I don't know him well enough personally for that particular emotion to have established itself. I fear him, as should you and ALL Americans. Trumps attempt to distance himself from Project 2025 may be swallowed by those who would believe anything he says (bit like the cats and dogs menu drivel and the execution of babies born at 9 months), but a leopard doesn't change its spots, and every sentiment he expresses about the state and federal legislatures, the judiciary, the armed forces, foreign policy etc etc etc ad nauseam, chimes word for word with what is document in the Project 2025 proposals. The source of my information on Project 2025 is not governmental nor journalistic in the narrow sense you suggest, and for what its worth, whilst Wikipedia isn't perfect, its record in terms of accurately documenting just about anything you would wish to investigate is as flawless as any such platform (and a f00king sight better than "Truth Social").

    And your figure of illegal aliens, perhaps fact-checking is something you should engage in there, as opposed to swallowing more of the drivel that comes out of Laura Loomers rather uncontrollable mouth? Perhaps some information from the Cato institute (not hard to find) would help?

    https://www.cato.org/blog/president-...al-immigration

    I'm not a US citizen, so I can't vote for either (I suspect that the frailty, in terms of identifying and validating "legal" voters, you describe has existed for some time, under a variety of administrations), but my hope is that Harris wins despite her flaws and shortcomings, which we all have, or one extent or another. The alternative is simply too terrible to countenance, and not just for citizens of the United States of America.

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    Actually, I know quite a lot about elections. I’m a precinct chairman. I sign a document under penalty of law to follow the election laws in my state. I also disqualify a fair amount of ballots each election for not meeting voting requirements Of course they go to a judge who just overrules the disqualification even though the documentation spells out why they failed

    Are you an election official? Do you understand the reason for rules? Does the UK require people to register to vote and have a government ID? Can you think of any reason the USA would not expect this minimum level of security?

    Who exactly funds the cato institute? Maybe the same people that think letting in unvetted illegal aliens is good for their bottom line.

    Trump is a vile human. However, I don’t want a leader who is my friend. I want someone that can make the standard of living better for all Americans and ensures a secure country for my family. Harris offers none of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Actually, I know quite a lot about elections. I’m a precinct chairman. I sign a document under penalty of law to follow the election laws in my state. I also disqualify a fair amount of ballots each election for not meeting voting requirements Of course they go to a judge who just overrules the disqualification even though the documentation spells out why they failed

    Are you an election official? Do you understand the reason for rules? Does the UK require people to register to vote and have a government ID? Can you think of any reason the USA would not expect this minimum level of security?

    Who exactly funds the cato institute? Maybe the same people that think letting in unvetted illegal aliens is good for their bottom line.

    Trump is a vile human. However, I don’t want a leader who is my friend. I want someone that can make the standard of living better for all Americans and ensures a secure country for my family. Harris offers none of this
    I didn't question whether you new anything about elections or not, but congratulations on your status as precinct chairman, although from your follow on comments it would appear that you aren't as enamoured of that position as you might be, and when did that disaffection start?

    The UK has quite strict regulation regarding entitlement to vote, with voters required to be on an electoral register, and that at an election all voters must provide an approved form of photographic evidence of identity (drivers license, passport etc). I find your query as to whether I understand the reason for rules (relating to elections or elsewhere) incredibly disrespectful, given that I haven't quizzed you on the same issue, nor would I suspect that you have any less regard or understanding of the need for rules as any other "reasonable" human being. It's also hugely ironic given that you appear to support for President an individual for whom rules, (regarding personal behaviour, conduct in high office, etc etc) seem to mean little or nothing if they conflict with his own interpretation of what is good for Donald Trump.

    As to the Cato institute (who by the way, I provided a link to as one of the most immediate, and (apparently) objective sources of information regarding ex-President Trumps record on immigration, illegal or otherwise, there are many, MANY more sources of similar information)?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_I...ment%20funding.

    We do at least agree on a couple of things, Trump is a vile human being, and the governmental head of state (we have a monarchy, so our head of state is purely ceremonial, the Prime Minister is as close as we will ever get to your office of President) isn't expected to be ANYBODYS "friend". You may not think that Harris can offer what you seek from your leader, you can be damned certain that Trump isn't even close to thinking of "all Americans", only those who vote for him, or support him in other ways (Like the aforementioned Laura, or the NRA, or the various conspiracy theorists gathered under the QAnon banner). His rhetoric regarding those who oppose him leaves little to be uncertain about in that respect.

    Are all these wrong?

    https://warontherocks.com/2016/03/op...urity-leaders/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ten...er-2024-09-09/

    There are many, many more, it's not hard to find staunch Republican supporters who have had enough of Trumps bizarre and self-serving nonsense.

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    Are you related to Trump given you are known to spout bizarre and self-serving nonsense?

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