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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    hWe need a complete change from top to bottom.This is as bad as it gets and if we don't hear anything from the chairman before Saturday there will be many empty seats at the NYS.We need new leadership NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Completely agree, but you know what the reaction is likely to be if you dare to criticise TS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolmorgan View Post
    For me there is something wrong at Rotherham,the players tonight looked & played like there was no interest.
    ..................trouble in't mill? Just look at the reaction when Wilks shot tamely in injury time.........We're so unbalanced and it's down to SE.
    Last edited by avondalemiller; 22-10-2024 at 09:17 PM.

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    Very downhearted after that. Lacking in organisation, skill and commitment. How many players did you see who even looked like they cared how that game was going? Only player who emerged with any sort of credit was Holmes. I've said all season, there's no natural leader on the pitch who can rally the troops when things aren't going well. We also have a manager who can't even be bothered to get off his arse these days.

    If you don't have the best players, the ones you have don't really care, and the manager is past his sell-by date, it's only going one way.

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    Don't worry, there are those on here that know what they are talking about, the ones over the last few weeks saying we will be in the top 6, we will give someone a tonking soon, it just needs to click, we will be up there lol having faith is one thing but that tonight was atrocious.

    These players don't have belief in themselves or the management, it is clear to see. We were 1-0 down and there was no urgency, no desire really a complete lack of teamwork, if TS cannot see it then his love for SE is making him blind.

    Played 13 games now, 28% of the season averaging 0.92 points a game (42 points over a season), 5 games we have failed to score (38%) and only 2 clean sheets. We are 17th in the league 4 points of relegation place and the 5 teams below us all have 1 or 2 games in-hand.

    All we get from Evans is excuses and a promise of jam tomorrow, if we are up there at xmas and if TS buys more players.

    On saturday Hungbo put 5 quality crosses into the box in a 8 minute spell, so he stays on the bench. Wilks (I said at HT he is greedy, falls over and fouls) stupid foul cost us their goal, is he so stupid that he doesn't learn. Osong not even on the bus, yet Hugill plays again. If the kid has a motivation problem well isn't that the job of the management team to manage him?

    Set pieces again I mean how can we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcomes, isn't that a definition of insanity.

    Their keeper didn't have a real save to make, he fell on a few soft efforts whilst Dawson pulled 3 outstanding saves to keep the score down.

    We move the ball so slowly and when was the last time we played a diagonal ball across the pitch to open the game up?

    Now Evans will not be sacked even if we are in the bottom 4, because he bought into the massive reduction in playing staff that the board needed to do after relegation, he will have convinced himself and them that he could do enough by Christmas to give us a chance if we do more business in January, unfortunately time is running out to achieve that and the performances are getting worse, won't be long for injuries to be the excuse.

    Things won't improve unless changes are made in the approach and the players started as well as getting in a set piece expert, even if only for a few weeks to address that.

    There was nothing positive in that, I feel for Brin and the others have a safe trip home

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    Wilkes Kelly why? Hungbo Mcwilliams instead. Holmes give him a start.

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    Small mercies, the much maligned Dawson prevented a 3 or 4 goal defeat. Yes it's that daft.
    The two heading sitters are inexcusable. They were the only headers we've had in the opposition box in two games. Didn't look a foul for the free-kick that cost the goal, but they are the breaks we're getting at the moment.
    People keep telling me we're too good to go down. Hope they're right.

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    Time to sell up Mr Stewart. It'll only get worse under the salesman and the disastrously poor recruitment man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    Don't worry, there are those on here that know what they are talking about, the ones over the last few weeks saying we will be in the top 6, we will give someone a tonking soon, it just needs to click, we will be up there lol having faith is one thing but that tonight was atrocious.

    These players don't have belief in themselves or the management, it is clear to see. We were 1-0 down and there was no urgency, no desire really a complete lack of teamwork, if TS cannot see it then his love for SE is making him blind.

    Played 13 games now, 28% of the season averaging 0.92 points a game (42 points over a season), 5 games we have failed to score (38%) and only 2 clean sheets. We are 17th in the league 4 points of relegation place and the 5 teams below us all have 1 or 2 games in-hand.

    All we get from Evans is excuses and a promise of jam tomorrow, if we are up there at xmas and if TS buys more players.

    On saturday Hungbo put 5 quality crosses into the box in a 8 minute spell, so he stays on the bench. Wilks (I said at HT he is greedy, falls over and fouls) stupid foul cost us their goal, is he so stupid that he doesn't learn. Osong not even on the bus, yet Hugill plays again. If the kid has a motivation problem well isn't that the job of the management team to manage him?

    Set pieces again I mean how can we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcomes, isn't that a definition of insanity.

    Their keeper didn't have a real save to make, he fell on a few soft efforts whilst Dawson pulled 3 outstanding saves to keep the score down.

    We move the ball so slowly and when was the last time we played a diagonal ball across the pitch to open the game up?

    Now Evans will not be sacked even if we are in the bottom 4, because he bought into the massive reduction in playing staff that the board needed to do after relegation, he will have convinced himself and them that he could do enough by Christmas to give us a chance if we do more business in January, unfortunately time is running out to achieve that and the performances are getting worse, won't be long for injuries to be the excuse.

    Things won't improve unless changes are made in the approach and the players started as well as getting in a set piece expert, even if only for a few weeks to address that.

    There was nothing positive in that, I feel for Brin and the others have a safe trip home
    Agree that our set pieces are poor. The one right at the end summed us up.

    More worryingly our inability to defend set pieces or crosses. Conceded from 2 corners against Posh, free kick tonight (Wilkes won the ball though), cross against Wrexham. It’s really bad.

    Think your maths might be wrong on the points cos we’ve got 14 points from 13 but other than that I agree.

    Too slow in the build up, control is poor. Hoof it to Nombe’s head with no one near him. Not sure why we keep trying that.

    Evans keeps doing the same thing week in, week out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark27 View Post
    Agree that our set pieces are poor. The one right at the end summed us up.

    More worryingly our inability to defend set pieces or crosses. Conceded from 2 corners against Posh, free kick tonight (Wilkes won the ball though), cross against Wrexham. It’s really bad.

    Think your maths might be wrong on the points cos we’ve got 14 points from 13 but other than that I agree.

    Too slow in the build up, control is poor. Hoof it to Nombe’s head with no one near him. Not sure why we keep trying that.

    Evans keeps doing the same thing week in, week out.
    Some would say Derby doesn't know his ar.se from his elbow but I say he doesn't know his numerator from his denominator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark27 View Post
    Agree that our set pieces are poor. The one right at the end summed us up.

    More worryingly our inability to defend set pieces or crosses. Conceded from 2 corners against Posh, free kick tonight (Wilkes won the ball though), cross against Wrexham. It’s really bad.

    Think your maths might be wrong on the points cos we’ve got 14 points from 13 but other than that I agree.

    Too slow in the build up, control is poor. Hoof it to Nombe’s head with no one near him. Not sure why we keep trying that.

    Evans keeps doing the same thing week in, week out.
    You are right on my maths, it is late here in germany. 1.07 points a game which is 49 points, that might keep us up. I actually think we will do better mainly because i think we are as low as this group can be. We are no where near at top 10 team at the moment and it will take a real jump in consistentcy and effort to get in that top 10.

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