According to Nige

[Mapperleypie]

I think he knows that so he has cashed out if you look at his career he wont go much higher.

Id guess he signed for at least 2.5 years if he cost ?400k.

He'd get 10% of that fee if he didnt ask to move.

You then look at those wages ?5-6k a week over 2.5 years thats about ?700k.

As a league two player at his age you are not turning that amount of money down.

The media exit interview didnt come over well but players arent known for their brains !

It's not so much the money, you cannot blame anyone for earning more money. The manner of the exit and the sulk for large parts of his time at Notts this season is the main gripe I have.

He's clearly a very good player but with an attitude problem which has cost him his chance to play higher than league 2.

[legs77]

It's not so much the money, you cannot blame anyone for earning more money. The manner of the exit and the sulk for large parts of his time at Notts this season is the main gripe I have.

He's clearly a very good player but with an attitude problem which has cost him his chance to play higher than league 2.

I think in fairness he hasn?t sulked on the pitch his numbers since he has been here are incredible for us I know they aren?t for MK Dons but that is not anything I?m bothered about.

Grant / Edward?s seem good pros and work hard but Crowley walks into our side and we are immensely stronger too.

He might not be good enough to play much higher than mid table in league one and nobody below that level can pay him what MK are and I believe he was on a good wage here too around ?3k a week.

When all is said and done if we got 400k we have to accept that offer that is insane when he only has 6 months left on his contract.

[tommopie8]

I think in fairness he hasn?t sulked on the pitch his numbers since he has been here are incredible for us I know they aren?t for MK Dons but that is not anything I?m bothered about.

Grant / Edward?s seem good pros and work hard but Crowley walks into our side and we are immensely stronger too.

He might not be good enough to play much higher than mid table in league one and nobody below that level can pay him what MK are and I believe he was on a good wage here too around ?3k a week.

When all is said and done if we got 400k we have to accept that offer that is insane when he only has 6 months left on his contract.

Think we need to see where we finish to decide if it was a good decision or not. I'm not bothered if he was liked by colleagues - it's not a given but a bonus to get on with all your colleagues.

I'd rather have a surly Crowley than a top professional Edwards in the XI any day of the week.

[legs77]

Think we need to see where we finish to decide if it was a good decision or not. I'm not bothered if he was liked by colleagues - it's not a given but a bonus to get on with all your colleagues.

I'd rather have a surly Crowley than a top professional Edwards in the XI any day of the week.

I would too as stated but we are still servicing debts so we have no choice but to take the deal.

Anyone in football who wants out generally gets moved on at any club.

He was a good player for us cost us nothing and we get a good fee that is the model and it is clearly working.

[Boomerangpie]

I would too as stated but we are still servicing debts so we have no choice but to take the deal.

Anyone in football who wants out generally gets moved on at any club.

He was a good player for us cost us nothing and we get a good fee that is the model and it is clearly working.

It most certainly is. Making a considerable profit in the transfer market.

Legs77?s nails it, great post

[legs77]

And so do you. It's not costing the Bros to "service the debt". They don't owe anything to anyone, the milkman has been paid and so have HMRC. It's not like a bank loan or the National Debt which is costing an arm and a leg to service with interest. So why bring it up, it is not a noose around their necks?

We owe ?10m or so still SOMEBODY has to pay it or maintain it.

I didnt say ever its a noose around their necks but anyone in business who is smart reduces costs and in football selling a few assets helps us.

400k with 6 months on his contract is great business for the club that is my point.

[matt_magpie]

We owe ?10m or so still SOMEBODY has to pay it or maintain it.

I didnt say ever its a noose around their necks but anyone in business who is smart reduces costs and in football selling a few assets helps us.

400k with 6 months on his contract is great business for the club that is my point.

The bros are also entitled to get some money back, some people seem to think it?s fair game for them to lose over 2m a year and then question why they don?t go for it more, that said they went and bought Traore straight away.

[legs77]

The bros are also entitled to get some money back, some people seem to think it?s fair game for them to lose over 2m a year and then question why they don?t go for it more, that said they went and bought Traore straight away.

Correct and they did say we can only spend what we earn from day one and we need to be sustainable for the long term future of the club.

I think Old Pie is correct it?s not technically a debt as I believe Ray Trew who was an accountant by trade used similar language on here and the media.

Back on topic though we got a good deal for a player who had 6 months left and wanted to go the only losers so far are MK Dons as they haven?t won a game since he joined !

[Old_pie]

Correct and they did say we can only spend what we earn from day one and we need to be sustainable for the long term future of the club.

Did they? Sustainable does not necessarily mean profitable, it does mean affordable. You're not making money on the beer you drink but you still buy it.

I think Old Pie is correct it?s not technically a debt as I believe Ray Trew who was an accountant by trade used similar language on here and the media.

That's not what I said. I said it's not a debt that has to be serviced. The club owes the Bros. The concept is easier to understand if you treat the club as an entitiy in its own right, which as a limited company, it is. The Bros cannot call in the debt from the club as for instance a bank could, or some third party lender. From everything they have so far done they are not desperate to reduce it but they will not be held to ransom and they will take profit where there is good value in so doing.

Back on topic though we got a good deal for a player who had 6 months left and wanted to go the only losers so far are MK Dons as they haven?t won a game since he joined !

Absolutely. They are neither daft nor desperate. A great position to be when carrying out dealings.

[legs77]

Did they? Sustainable does not necessarily mean profitable, it does mean affordable. You're not making money on the beer you drink but you still buy it.



That's not what I said. I said it's not a debt that has to be serviced. The club owes the Bros. The concept is easier to understand if you treat the club as an entitiy in its own right, which as a limited company, it is. The Bros cannot call in the debt from the club as for instance a bank could, or some third party lender. From everything they have so far done they are not desperate to reduce it but they will not be held to ransom and they will take profit where there is good value in so doing.



Absolutely. They are neither daft nor desperate. A great position to be when carrying out dealings.

I never said profitable I said they aim to reduce costs as like you say they aren?t daft but they had to put their own money in first obviously but like all business people you want some return off it.

I know it?s the club on its own entity and the bank ?could? call it in and not the brothers same with Trew/Hardy couldn?t but it?s like a mortgage if you can pay it then you are good if not we have a problem.

As things stand though we seem to be in very safe hands and that?s all I care about.