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  1. #1
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    Let us start with the positives, we are in the top half, more than Evan’s achieved. Douglas, was excellent and so pleased for him scoring the goal. Gore and Powell yet again gave everything, never stop running remember they played 130 minutes on Saturday. For the third time this season we came back from 2-0 down at home. We 5 unbeaten in the league.
    For me that was a very poor performance following the one on Saturday and both of those were MH fault. I simply do not buy the injury story for the weekend I think he was putting priority on this game but the manner of the cup defeat had a knock on effect to tonight’s performance. These managers spend too much time watching the premier league, resting players and not treating each cup game with the respect and desire to win as they should. Back to tonight, Hall and Martha were terrible, how one or both weren’t removed at half-time is beyond belief, yet he took off McWilliams who was doing ok and at least tries. McWilliams could have gone to right-wing back and tightened us up down that side, hall was beaten time and again in the first half and was so static going forward. Martha was shocking, tries to run through players when a simple pass is the option, MH says we might have to sell him in January as he was bought with the intention to sell for a profit, I think that has already gone to his head, not a patch on Wilks. We conceded from a set piece goal, what a surprise playing two full-backs as centre backs when we had two other centre backs sat on the bench. This coming back all the time, so Dawson can lump it to the opposition centre backs, how many games does it take before the management see that doesn’t work and we lose possession too easy. We were fortunate tonight very fortunate, play like that on Saturday and it won’t end so well. How many times did we work their keeper tonight? Dawson pulled off two very good saves again, their keeper could have sat on the bus watching the champions league games.

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    Can?t understand this.
    You have to take into account our injury list and Burtons form going into the game notwithstanding their huge cup win at the weekend, albeit against non league opposition.

    They have now gone 5 away games unbeaten
    Drew 1-1 at Donny
    Won 1-0 at AFC Wimbledon
    Won 1-0 at Cardiff
    Drew 0-0 at Huddersfield

    They have only lost 2 away games this season and they were the first 2, at Barnsley and Stockport, both by the odd goal on 9th and 23rd August respectively.
    They have been very good away, only conceded 1 goal in their last 4 away games as shown above.

    They have a really good manager and are a very dangerous team. So to come back from 2-0 down with no recognised central defence against a defensively sound team, I reckon is a good result.

    I wasn?t disappointed at the loss in the Cup as the league is far more important for us. A month ago we were wondering where our next win was coming from and now we are up to 12th. Yes I know it is very tight but in the light of adversity through injuries I think the results have been commendable, but tonight Burton certainly deserved to get something out of the game and we take the point and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nardendee View Post
    Can?t understand this.
    You have to take into account our injury list and Burtons form going into the game notwithstanding their huge cup win at the weekend, albeit against non league opposition.

    They have now gone 5 away games unbeaten
    Drew 1-1 at Donny
    Won 1-0 at AFC Wimbledon
    Won 1-0 at Cardiff
    Drew 0-0 at Huddersfield

    They have only lost 2 away games this season and they were the first 2, at Barnsley and Stockport, both by the odd goal on 9th and 23rd August respectively.
    They have been very good away, only conceded 1 goal in their last 4 away games as shown above.

    They have a really good manager and are a very dangerous team. So to come back from 2-0 down with no recognised central defence against a defensively sound team, I reckon is a good result.

    I wasn?t disappointed at the loss in the Cup as the league is far more important for us. A month ago we were wondering where our next win was coming from and now we are up to 12th. Yes I know it is very tight but in the light of adversity through injuries I think the results have been commendable, but tonight Burton certainly deserved to get something out of the game and we take the point and move on.
    Pretty much agree with this. When I saw the team with no recognised centre defenders, 2 of them not at full fitness and wing backs wiither the same or out of position, I didn't hold out much hope for more than a point. It seemed to be going that way, so quite pleased that we showed balls enoughg to come back, and the last minute goal will be a confidence boost for Hamish who looks a big positive for the future.

    I had a go at Dawson in the match thread, and he has to anticipae what the opposition are doing to him and be stronger in getting around their blocker to take command. But otherwise, he continued his recent good form with some good saves. I thing the crits for him are unfair.

    I agree with frog, I quite enjoyed many passages of play - I like watching Spence and Gore battle away in midfield and play some slick passing movements iinterplaying with others. But disappointing up top, with Martha frustrating compared to what we know he can do, Hall out of sorts and Nombe a bit stranded. I think we have to ignore Sherif's size - he isn't a target man but quite similar to Nombe and not sure they can blend in anything other than their speed and troublesomeness in pressing the defenders. I think Sherif, like Nombe will only score if we get wide men down the wings behind the full backs and square across.

    Some still comparing MH with SE - in my opinion, at least I can see attempts to play football through the midfield here. We can't only blame injuries, but missing both Jules and the Sheff U fella is huge when teams are playing on our weaknesses - as I said at half time, they knew our vulnerability, they know very well how to stay solid and just wait for their aerial opportunities which eventually came. Any good team uilds on a solid defence and we are makeshift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nardendee View Post
    Can?t understand this.
    You have to take into account our injury list and Burtons form going into the game notwithstanding their huge cup win at the weekend, albeit against non league opposition.

    They have now gone 5 away games unbeaten
    Drew 1-1 at Donny
    Won 1-0 at AFC Wimbledon
    Won 1-0 at Cardiff
    Drew 0-0 at Huddersfield

    They have only lost 2 away games this season and they were the first 2, at Barnsley and Stockport, both by the odd goal on 9th and 23rd August respectively.
    They have been very good away, only conceded 1 goal in their last 4 away games as shown above.

    They have a really good manager and are a very dangerous team. So to come back from 2-0 down with no recognised central defence against a defensively sound team, I reckon is a good result.

    I wasn?t disappointed at the loss in the Cup as the league is far more important for us. A month ago we were wondering where our next win was coming from and now we are up to 12th. Yes I know it is very tight but in the light of adversity through injuries I think the results have been commendable, but tonight Burton certainly deserved to get something out of the game and we take the point and move on.
    Well said nardendee .. some sense spoken at last on tonight's game .. like I said earlier they are no mugs Burton. I think it was a excellent point .with a very injury hit team . To get back to 2-2 with 25 mins left to play . Reece James played with broken ribs..

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    Quite agree. 1st goal. They targeted our central defence weakness from the corner. A proper centre half heads that away. Blaming the goalkeeper for that is bizarre. Made a couple of really good saves & that one in the first half with his legs was great. Their second goal was a very unfortunate slip which they punished really well.

    Hamish?s late late leveller must have felted like proper Roy of the Rovers stuff for the lad.

    Who are the two guys on the New York Talk? I felt well depressed watching that, so much so I turned it off after about a minute.
    No allowances whatsoever. Both teams rubbish they said.
    You have to look at that result in the context of our injuries and dangerous opposition. For them to say both teams were awful is in itself awful.

    Positive spin. What?s that - 5 league games unbeaten? From where we were that?s remarkable. It?s night and day from where we were 5-6 weeks ago.

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    Summer recruitment is back firing on us now. At least Agbaire Hall Martha Kaleta Sherif Etete are nowhere as good as Hamshaw thinks they are. Ayres would be better definitely up front. Douglas last night same at centre back. Duncan next on the assembly line.

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    Some people are still falling for this crap. Take a look at the crowd last night. People are voting with their feet. Tepid nonsense. The strategy appears to be buy a few foreign youngster and sell them on for a few bucks after a few matches. TS is the equivalent of Bill Maynard if ‘He’s the Gaffer” and Hamshaw is just the latest numpty he’s employed.

    Home side last night against the league minnows and I think I counted 3 forward passes. Midfield full of pretty boys who have zero fight. Wingbacks who sit on the halfway line. Not sure what Martha does, and neither does he.

    Sell up TS and let someone step in.

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    Bloody hell this has shocked me this morning.

    It was a night match at Rotherham on a cold and wet no sodden Tuesday against 2 teams in the bottom half of league one.

    The play was quick at times and expansive with both teams playing their part.

    Was it top quality? No! But what do you really expect?
    Real Madrid, PSG, Man City or another team made up of multi million pound players?

    Get some perspective into yourselves.

    We watched a decent League One match with the team we support coming back from two nowt down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    Bloody hell this has shocked me this morning.

    It was a night match at Rotherham on a cold and wet no sodden Tuesday against 2 teams in the bottom half of league one.

    The play was quick at times and expansive with both teams playing their part.

    Was it top quality? No! But what do you really expect?
    Real Madrid, PSG, Man City or another team made up of multi million pound players?

    Get some perspective into yourselves.

    We watched a decent League One match with the team we support coming back from two nowt down.
    I have perspective frog I’m a happy clapper I travel up and down the country to support the team. I like Hamshaw I think he will do well.
    However I’m sorry but this negative pass back, long hopeless balls is not good to watch. A decent team last night beats us comfortably. When was the last time we played for 90 minutes.
    We are hit and miss and if I’m honest I’m fatigued with the same excuses, injuries, new players, transition. I got soaked through on way there and back I think it’s easy to criticise the supporters who are turning up week in week out and that’s not a dig at anyone but it’s relevant. The club is drifting and it’s tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocket rocket View Post
    I have perspective frog I’m a happy clapper I travel up and down the country to support the team. I like Hamshaw I think he will do well.
    However I’m sorry but this negative pass back, long hopeless balls is not good to watch. A decent team last night beats us comfortably. When was the last time we played for 90 minutes.
    We are hit and miss and if I’m honest I’m fatigued with the same excuses, injuries, new players, transition. I got soaked through on way there and back I think it’s easy to criticise the supporters who are turning up week in week out and that’s not a dig at anyone but it’s relevant. The club is drifting and it’s tedious.
    I understand Pocket everything you say and I give credit to everyone that follow The Millers.

    There were some good points made from posters I thought as I was reading through.

    I can understand the long ball to clear the defence last night because we only had one fit central defender. The 2 other central defenders were playing out of their normal position.

    I thought that some of the running by the midfielders was magnificent and they passed simply in the way they were facing to players showing themselves even when they were marked.

    Dawson came in for criticism but I think it was unfair. He made a brilliant save with his feet from a deflected shot. I thought that he was fouled for their first goal. The second goal was a comical goal from a rare slip but stil Dawson couldn’t do anything with the shot at goal.

    Each and every player made mistakes last night on both teams.

    I don’t know if it’s been said that the ref did not award us a free kick until half way through the second half.

    We didn’t start the second half well and it got worserer with us conceding the second.

    We would have folded at that point but we didn’t we battled on and got the deflected goal. After that we continued to push and got our just desserts!

    I was a great point under the circumstances and the undefeated run continues!

    I enjoyed the match, indoors and dry with a JD sat at the side of me. Our experiences were different but the result remains 🤗

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