O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[upthemaggies]

But he's not a science communicator or journalist.

He's not claiming to be, he deals with patents and the legality, so knows the history of what they've been up to for the past 6 decades and when they have broken the law by going through the documents and presenting them to the public. If you'd watched the video then you would know this rather than making silly assumptions.

[Mud Pie]

Sometimes the whole thing is a giant lizard new world order conspiracy theory 'plandemic'. Sometimes it's an accidental lab escape. Sometimes it' a "biological warfare crime", sometimes COVID is no worse than the common cold or the flu, or only kills people who are dying anyway. Sometimes it's that the vaccines are untested. Sometimes it's that they're accidentally dangerous and that's being covered up. Sometimes, it's that they're deliberately dangerous with some nefarious purpose. Sometimes they're killing a lot of people. Sometimes they're not, but they might in the future. Feels like it's an ever-shifting narrative.

Would you deny that any of this has been happening?

Are you expecting to get to a point where you've proved somethign for sure and something is done about it?

would you please also state for sure that the moon landing was/not a hoax? Or that 5G is bad for us, or that Princess Di was deliberately killed, chemtrails, estrogen in the water, global warming will kill us all within a decade, Hilary Clinton uses baby fetuses to keep her young looking... ALdi is a communist plot, MSG is poison...

every responsible person should evaluate each and every claim, exhaust all research avenues including evaluating each and every source back three generations including close family ties, political affiliations, and business interests AND then you have to argue at great length with lots of VERY INTENSE types on tinternet before you even dare to posit a theory, sorry FACT

while I agree that it's all important, except for the bits that aren't of course, and that we should be as up on things as we can (which is why I follow and like most of the posts on here), but some of us have jobs and families and dream of Notts next ****-hot right wingback, and don't have post-graduate work in immunology/moon landings

Maybe a bigger question, if that's possible: Can you say what effect all of this online research and communication facility has had on the quality of our lives?

Maybe that's like asking if we were happier as mushrooms, but, with respect, do you feel your life is better after a day spent parsing David Martin?

[Mud Pie]

do you feel your life is better after a day spent parsing David Martin?

for anyone who's taking this route, here's a bit of rebuttal:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/ne...-conspiracies/

[upthemaggies]

would you please also state for sure that the moon landing was/not a hoax? Or that 5G is bad for us, or that Princess Di was deliberately killed, chemtrails, estrogen in the water, global warming will kill us all within a decade, Hilary Clinton uses baby fetuses to keep her young looking...
?

Moon Landings happened.
5G too early to tell
Princess Di, dunno, not that interested, maybe I should be.
Chemtrails, as above
Estrogen, as above
Global Warning, of course it's warning up, we've just come out an ice age relatively speaking and we're still in one of the coldest ever periods in the earth's history
Hillary Clinton, very dodgy but probably not that dodgy

[Mud Pie]

Moon Landings happened

proof?

eta: I'm off out for a run in the sun with my son! Is there a way to compare our quality of life while you prove the moon landing?

[upthemaggies]

proof?

I wasn't on the moon at the time to see it with my own eyes, but if it were fake then the Soviet Union would have called it out.
Why go on faking it with more landings to the end of 1972.
Is anybody claiming the 1968 flight around the moon was fake? If not, then that would have been enough for the US to claim victory if they knew it was impossible to land (in which case the Soviet Union wouldn't have been able to land either).

[Newish Pie]

He's not claiming to be, he deals with patents and the legality, so knows the history of what they've been up to for the past 6 decades and when they have broken the law by going through the documents and presenting them to the public. If you'd watched the video then you would know this rather than making silly assumptions.

I'm not going to watch the video. There's nothing about that video that gives me the impression that it's credible or worth my time, and every indication that the opposite is the case. He may or may not know about patent law and patent legalities, but that doesn't make him an expert on anything else. The link that MudPie posted makes me even more sceptical.

[Mud Pie]

I wasn't on the moon at the time to see it with my own eyes

see, there's your problem! Sent you a DM. Mud out.

[magpie_mania]

Not exactly to do with the leadership or covid debates going off on this thread, but it was good to see Nigel Farage and GB News ruffling a few feathers at the TRIC Awards yesterday. Much maligned by the msm, GB News is the only channel that presents a balanced view of the news and gives the general public their say. It is great to see the channel growing, while having to contend with attempts to shut it down or cancel it before it had even aired. Nice to see some balance in the increasingly biased world of news reporting.

Balance? Take your tongue out of your cheek!

Could it be anything to do with the fact that GBN were promoting the TRIC awards?

[upthemaggies]

I'm not going to watch the video. There's nothing about that video that gives me the impression that it's credible or worth my time, and every indication that the opposite is the case. He may or may not know about patent law and patent legalities, but that doesn't make him an expert on anything else. The link that MudPie posted makes me even more sceptical.

Anybody who goes against the official narrative gets "fact checked" and smeared, but that's not to say he's right of course. As I said, I don't really know much about that side of things because it does tend to attract the extreme end of the spectrum, the equivalent on the other side being those who believe in masking alone at home and washing down all of their shopping with disinfectant in the garage before bringing it into the house, living their lives in total fear.

What he says in the video - which I didn't post originally - isn't particularly controversial, for example he's giving dates of when Pfizer patented x and then pointed out what happened the following year. He makes it obvious that he thinks it's more than just a coincidence, but there's clearly more to this story than it just popping out of nowhere in 2019.