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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    …..and a good thing too.
    You’ll not be surprised to learn that I disagree with you entirely on that

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    But that's because you're an arse.

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    That’s definitely one way of looking at it

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    It's all very well saying we shouldn't produce crude oil but the reality is it is used in so many day to day products that it will take decades to develop alternatives. Whilst almost all the focus is on crude oil being used for transportation and heating and how we reduce it's use (electric cars/heat pumps etc) we can't ignore all of the other uses of crude oil. Just a small sample of what we need crude oil for currently

    Clothes (nylons, polymers etc)
    House furnishings (sofas/carpets/curtains/cushions etc)
    Electronic equipment (phones/ipads/laptops/TV's etc)
    Kids toys (almost all)
    Tarmac for roads
    Chemicals for pesticides/fertilizer to boost food production etc
    Almost all toiletries
    Almost all kitchen utensils
    House insulation (the irony!!)
    Sports equipment (including footballs - keeping it topical)
    Glasses/contact lenses (just for DD's benefit)

    I could go on and on but I'm sure you get the gist of it by now.

    Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt whatsoever that climate change is real and is caused by amongst other things crude oil production but for those that say we should just stop oil production they are just kidding themselves. This will be a long gradual process to find alternatives (if that is indeed possible) to so many products that virtually every single human on the planet uses and that means a long gradual process of declining oil production rather than an instant stop advocated by many.

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    I knew the whole Bibby Stockholm saga was going to end badly but I didn't think it was going to come this soon. Turns out the taps on the barge are full of legionnaires disease. Apparently this is not ideal for drinking.

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    Someone's pockets have been nicely filled with taxpayers cash thanks to this barge business, so the Tories' work here is done.

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    Ever watched the lorries boarding the cross channel ferry?

    How many people have they managed to get aboard in a week?

    39

    Value for money isn’t something that governments understand.

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    Network Rail admits failings caused the Stonehaven crash.

    Let the finger pointing commence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    Network Rail admits failings caused the Stonehaven crash.

    Let the finger pointing commence
    Move along. Nothing to do with government.

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    Russell Brand. Who woulda thunk it

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