O/T - general election 2019

[KerrAvon]

Have a read everybody it is very interesting. Not trying to score points or anything. Have a look on page 10 and decide whiich shape you are. i would go for type B at a glance but possibly partly type c with a small underclass layer ie criminals etc. How about you Howdy and Kerr? I would guess D for you both but may be wrong. Think I would be 2 layers up from the bottom. I would basically be wanting to fight the political corner of the bottom layer for type B.

Now you know my story Howdy.

I’m me, Roly. I have no desire to be labelled. Whilst it is an interesting read, I didn’t have the time to get to page 10. Page 1 confirmed my view of things, which is that we have a ‘working class of the mind’ in this country. That accords with my experience of some of the people who I meet in my work and who choose to be dependent upon the state as opposed to seeing what they could do if they tried to better their lot. I wouldn’t like to say how common that mindset is or that the people who I meet are 'typical' of anything, but I detect it quite often.

[rolymiller]

That accords with my experience of some of the people who I meet in my work and who choose to be dependent upon the state as opposed to seeing what they could do if they tried to better their lot. I wouldn’t like to say how common that mindset is or that the people who I meet are 'typical' of anything, but I detect it quite often.

...ah the old level playing field argument again which I always argue aint...some folks get a leg up, some don't...which one's tend not to as much that, my dear boy, is the question?

[Shark27]

...ah the old level playing field argument again which I always argue aint...some folks get a leg up, some don't...which one's tend not to as much that, my dear boy, is the question?

There are a lot of people who have been brought up on a culture of claiming benefits. Teachers see the parents daily (I hear this on a regular basis).

How do you stop this? You have to stop incentivising people to have more children. There are some real scum bags who seem to like having plenty of children. It really isn't difficult not to have one.

[Silly-miller]

Have a read everybody it is very interesting. Not trying to score points or anything. Have a look on page 10 and decide whiich shape you are. i would go for type B at a glance but possibly partly type c with a small underclass layer ie criminals etc. How about you Howdy and Kerr? I would guess D for you both but may be wrong. Think I would be 2 layers up from the bottom. I would basically be wanting to fight the political corner of the bottom layer for type B.

Now you know my story Howdy.

I can’t read all that roly I’m not smart enough I guess

[Silly-miller]

You see corbyn today say he wants to nationalise broadband internet?

He’s starting to remind me of the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang

Lollipops roly get your lollipops 🍭

[howdydoo]

Type C for me Roly.

Would love society to look after layers 2 and 3 from the bottom. That’s where the core working class and decent people are. These are the people who get a raw deal but they’re having a good go. Help them by all means.

Anyone in the bottom layer, who has a decent IQ and are healthy, I don’t have a lot of time for, I’m afraid. Not the elderly (scumbags get old though), the sick and the mentally ill. Give them all the help they need.

Give the free loaders and scumbags £5k each to be sterilised and stop having a lot of babies.

I’d pay another 2p income tax for that.

Have a nice weekend.

[rolymiller]

I don't think we are too far apart Howdy. At least you recognise some good people get a raw deal.

Might argue who the scumbags and freeloaders are though...

Have a good un yourself including 3 points for the Millers of course.

[rolymiller]

JUst because people don't like socialism in your view doesn't mean to say they like capitalism either does it?

As regards your view of socialism, you cannot apply what happens in South America and Eastern Europe to what happens in the UK. Cultures and political cultures are very different because of the nature of the beast. Socialism is a broad church and it evolves and changes. I think the criticism of capitalism by Marx is still very valid but I would argue that we don't have the same class set up as it was at the time Marx wrote about it. None the less as i have always argued on here there is still a divide between rich and poor which needs addressing.

Come on you only have to look at p10 its not rocket science! 4 chuffin diagrams man! Give us a roughy at least! I don't need to label you I can guess where you are by the comments you have just made to me among the 1000s of others.

Would you at least agree I look like a B/C (be polite ...) with my views on here?

[rolymiller]

...it's coming...it's coming pup...you have done well. I get no change out of him with the level playing field argument.. he's a stubborn little devil is our Kerr.. I need your charm and persistence I think...I've tried love and affection but he's a cool dude and plays hard to get...

[KerrAvon]

...it's coming...it's coming pup...you have done well. I get no change out of him with the level playing field argument.. he's a stubborn little devil is our Kerr.. I need your charm and persistence I think...I've tried love and affection but he's a cool dude and plays hard to get...

There isn't a completely level playing field, but that isn't an excuse for the not trying that I see.

Marx described religion as the opiate of the masses. That's because he hadn't encountered the welfare state