General News Chat

[Red Zone]

Weegie centred Labour Party thrashes Weegie centred SNP

Bring on Kate Forbes.

Completely agree. Yesterday further confirmation that next year brings the end of the Tory Government and the end of Humza Yousaf and along with it the end of Harvie/Slater in the Scottish Government.

Shaping up nicely

[TheDeeDon]

Yesterday further confirmation that next year brings the end of the Tory Government

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Until all votes are counted a a general election and show they have been voted out, I would never underestimate the English (and North East Scotland's) desire for voting for those c*nts.

Taking the result of a Scottish seat, where they won on a 37% turnout, isn't exactly an endorsement of the Labour party, even more so when you see tactical voting at work.

Starmer is a c*nt and I don't think the next election is as cut and dried as anyone thinks. I just don't think Starmer has the country as a whole behind him the way Blair did in 97.

Although I will still be putting my cross against the SNP, I expect a Labour majority up here next year.

[Red Zone]

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Until all votes are counted a a general election and show they have been voted out, I would never underestimate the English (and North East Scotland's) desire for voting for those c*nts.

Taking the result of a Scottish seat, where they won on a 37% turnout, isn't exactly an endorsement of the Labour party, even more so when you see tactical voting at work.

Starmer is a c*nt and I don't think the next election is as cut and dried as anyone thinks. I just don't think Starmer has the country as a whole behind him the way Blair did in 97.

Although I will still be putting my cross against the SNP, I expect a Labour majority up here next year.

You're right to highlight tactical voting and I see that as the clear mechanism in englandshire to secure enough currently held Tory seats to kick out the Tories. You're also right that Starmer will only be next PM because he isn't in the Tory party rather than a positive appeal from Labour. There will be enough people in Southern england tactically vote LibDem and enough in Northern england and London tactically vote Labour to deprive the Tories of a majority (remember that whilst there is a core that will always vote Tory that is a million miles short of 50% so they are very susceptible to tactical voting in large enough numbers of seats). Whether all that is enough to get a Labour majority or a minority Labour Government supported by LibDem's remains to be seen.

[Mason89]

Whatever the problems are in this country, they can’t be fixed by Jackie Baillie or Katie Forbes

Those polishing their helmet over Rutherglen, underestimate how staunch that place is.

[Donanddusted]

Whatever the problems are in this country, they can’t be fixed by Jackie Baillie or Katie Forbes

Those polishing their helmet over Rutherglen, underestimate how staunch that place is.

And yet Margaret COVID won it last time around.

[Mason89]

And yet Margaret COVID won it last time around.

The prods are more organised this time

[Red Zone]

Whatever the problems are in this country, they can’t be fixed by Jackie Baillie or Katie Forbes

There are two clear points here though

1. To get rid of the Tory’s in the short term there is only one game in town and that is Jackie Bailie’s party

2. To get independence in the medium/longer term regardless of her social views you need someone with her political nous and general likability to push the current 50% up towards the 60% mark that will secure a referendum from a Labour Government. Sturgeon was an extremely talented politician and she couldn’t get it done (maybe she was too happy on the gravy train) and Yousaf who is very much a poor man’s Sturgeon will absolutely never get it done. Who else but Forbes will appeal to the “middle 20%” that I genuinely believe can be persuaded one way or another that you need to swing towards being a Yes voter? Happy to hear any alternatives

[Mason89]

The membership hate though because she’s a demented harpy

[donsdaft]

Mason min

You use words but they don’t join up

[Red Zone]

The membership hate though because she’s a demented harpy

That's a sweeping statement but remember she got 40% first pref votes last time and 48% when second pref were counted. Big defeats focuses minds though and assuming SNP lose a whole bunch of seats next year I fancy that she will pick up enough extra votes to push her 40/48% above 50% next time. Who will be her serious competition?