O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[TheBlackHorse]

... we know the Cons were massive failures in terms of both capability and conduct, but liebour have plumbed new, even lower depths. Conduct: so out of touch they are, they imagined that the Tory model was the standard for behaviour... never mind the hypocracy. Capability: long enough in opposition to have a semblance of a plan, they're too thick to understand that the population (plebs) wouldn't suss their situation. If it weren't so serious it would be funny. The sad part is that we, the powerless, can only laugh. Whilst a good old revolution would help the corrupt Establishment would melt away to their overseas hiding places ... they're all right Jack...

[OchPie]

Not only a lefty, but part of this "Global Establishment" that doesn't actually exist

It's not been a great start by Starmer and co but they haven't come close to plumbing the depths of what the last lot got up to. Doesn't make it ok, though - even if they're being taken to task for things nobody cared about the Tories doing. Such as the title of this very thread.

[TheBlackHorse]

... come on Och, the Cons were entirely self-serving and didn't care if it showed. Liebpour, to my (our?) utter shame, are simply too thick to read the situation even when in opposition. All they imagined was get in, control the money and everything would be ok. Did nobody whisper... you need a plan? Too late - noses in trough. Mr Establishment Stirer couldn't organise the proverbial pi55 up. Remember, all he is is a lawyer...lawyers don't create anything, they just follow a book of instructions which is written and designed to protect the core Establishment - Saville, et al, anyone? He really is a model Pontius Pilate.
Reeves has never had a proper job. Talk to anyone with coonections to the BOE (don't even bother wuth HBOS); it's just an Establishment wing the does sweet f-all. How long does it take them to make a correct decision ... has a correct decision ever been made by the BOE? Of course not; everything has to line-up with our WEF friends. They're dead in the water ... Lazarus, anyone ... ?

[OchPie]

I am less worried about them not having a plan than their seeming inability to set any kind of agenda in the media. They've done a lot of what I voted for, and yet still it seems its those against those policies - most in their manifesto - who dominate the airwaves.

You can't get much more establishment than the BOE, but the people I know who have worked there wouldn't recognise it being in hoc to the WEF (and the people I know at the WEF would find the idea they run anything very funny).

I don't have much complaint with their recent interest rate decisions.

[The Dug Out]

Starmer & the rest of these very poor bunch of 2nd rate Politicians were elected by a very small amount of the population, mainly due to the even poorer outgoing bunch.
What Starmer has done is to take GB into the gutter in record time, biggest shot in the foot was the riots and him labelling all the accused as far right thugs jailed in record time, I am not far right just plain British that deplored Corbyn but got something as bad.

[OchPie]

When people are acting like thugs and chanting right wing slogans, well...

The UK was already in a very very bad state. It's going to take years to try to fix. Whether Labour are doing the right things to fix it is a fair topic of discussion, but their job is immense.

[keldsyke]

When people are acting like thugs and chanting right wing slogans, well...

You conveniently miss a lot out, as someone else just previously said in a previous post you label the centre in the middle as far right which most of us are not yet conveniently forget how the left and Islamists have turned the clock back to resemble the Nazis in the 1930s with their anti Jewish hate. You and the rest of your collective are very dangerous and more right wing than those that you berate!

[The Dug Out]

You conveniently miss a lot out, as someone else just previously said in a previous post you label the centre in the middle as far right which most of us are not yet conveniently forget how the left and Islamists have turned the clock back to resemble the Nazis in the 1930s with their anti Jewish hate. You and the rest of your collective are very dangerous and more right wing than those that you berate!

Yes,well said, I just get fed up of seeing these lefty traitors waving Hamas/Hezbullah flags all overcthe GB, they are just useful idiots who would be the first to be slaughtered by the people they are sidingvwith.

[keldsyke]

Well done Labour in only 100 days of power being more unpopular than the Tories, being the worst, clueless, dividing, corrupt two their government ever, well done 👍 the future looks so bright!

[LaxtonLad]

Well done Labour in only 100 days of power being more unpopular than the Tories, being the worst, clueless, dividing, corrupt two their government ever, well done �� the future looks so bright!

Cutting the OAP Christmas £300 per couple will cost them two votes times millions of electors at the next election.

We might be old buggers now and some won't be with us at the next election, but others will grow into pensioners and replace them and they will remember how shoddy their not so comfortable parents were treated within months of electing this government.