Graeme Shinnie

[Red Zone]

If Shinnie was staying I think we would
have made a decision by now. I would actually be surprised if he signs for the h*ns. He's a very good player for us but I doubt he's the type of player they will be looking at if they are serious about winning the league in the near future, which is what the unwashed will demand.



To be fair, you can't really compare pre 74 with post 98. In the '66 and '70 qualifiers we finished second in our groups to Italy and W. Germany respectively. In '62 we were knocked out in a play off against Czechoslovakia who lost in the Final to Brazil.

Post '98 has been characterised by perpetual embarrassment and contriving to make the worst out of seemingly benign groups. The only notable exception was the romance of the Euro 2008 which was more like the 'glorious failures' of old.

I think the other thing that can’t be ignored are the political changes. In the earlier years Russia and Yugoslavia were two countries, now they are 21 countries (I think) trying to qualify with many of the 21, high quality teams

[xtrmntr75]

There were a lot of factors contributed to last week’s result. Calls offs due to the pitch, travel time, etc. It’s not isolated though. Been watching Scotland and going through the highs and mainly lows since the mid 80s. Belarus, Macedonia, Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia twice, Maldova and now Kazakhstan have all taken points off us. The vast majority of teams of our ranking beat these teams home and away. Some of it must be down to attitude.

[Pacman1903]

. Belarus, Macedonia, Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia twice, Maldova and now Kazakhstan have all taken points . .

Unacceptable. You can say that these countries have split into numerous countries but they have thrown up more dross than decent teams

Maybe Scotland are just sh@te

[rico94]

There were a lot of factors contributed to last week’s result. Calls offs due to the pitch, travel time, etc. It’s not isolated though. Been watching Scotland and going through the highs and mainly lows since the mid 80s. Belarus, Macedonia, Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia twice, Maldova and now Kazakhstan have all taken points off us. The vast majority of teams of our ranking beat these teams home and away. Some of it must be down to attitude.

Did the Faroe Islands not take a point off us as well?

[redstarfk]

Did the Faroe Islands not take a point off us as well?

Aye , a 2-2 draw , but seeing as they were 2-nil up it’s them rather than us that should see it as 2 points dropped

[xtrmntr75]

From memory, we’ve had two away draws with the Faroes.

[Jupiter]

. Belarus, Macedonia, Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia twice, Maldova and now Kazakhstan have all taken points off us.

None of these teams have ever qualified for a major tournament, so there is no excuse for us having so many bad results against them.

[rico94]

I think the problem with sacking manager after manager is that it’s only papering over the cracks.

We are never going to improve unless we change the way we coach kids from an early age.

The problem there is everyone in Scottish football scoffs at anyone who tries to tell them that,unless that attitude changes we will always be shyte.

[afc1903mad]

I think the problem with sacking manager after manager is that it’s only papering over the cracks.

We are never going to improve unless we change the way we coach kids from an early age.

The problem there is everyone in Scottish football scoffs at anyone who tries to tell them that,unless that attitude changes we will always be shyte.

Spot on Rico.
Thing is, I still see the Scottish professional teams teaching them to play 100% tempo all the time, where they need to learn also how to slow the game down, keep possession and make the opportunities.
A high press is fine, but better teams will learn to play through the lines and counter if the teams are not taught when to apply correctly

[Pacman1903]

Good thing he is watching a home game as we will nae doubt be sh@te and he winna be impressed