O/T Disgrace Cummings

[crashbang]

You seem to know everything .

[KerrAvon]

Trying to live a life which doesn't stretch the world's resources. We will all have to do it soon anyway whether we like it or not.

Still eating meat and driving out into the Peak District for a walk?

[rolymiller]

Still eating meat and driving out into the Peak District for a walk?

Nope are you?
Now your question: barrister or solicitor?

[rolymiller]

Anyway you didn't answer my questions

[crashbang]

Anyway you didn't answer my questions

Officer.
Have I committed a crime?
Am I committing a crime?
Do you think I am going to commit a crime?
As I say to the officer
Is it any of your business?

[WanChaiMiller]

Where does it end? The risk posed by his actions were, on the face of it, neglible.

Should everyone who breaks the rules lose their job?

They broke a trust. Johnson and the Government had a deal with the British people that we would stick to the rules lockdown - despite the suffering it was for the greater good and help others.

Johnson and Cumming broke the deal.

I hope the British public have more moral integrity than Johnson and Cummings. I hope we stick to the regulation when asked to do so in the future.

My fear, with many, the deal is fragile. It could end in more deaths.

[rileyev.the.third]

That’s not actually correct Riley.

First they said he broke the law which was refuted, then they said he had broke the rules which was refuted, then they said he had broken the spirit of the rules which is currently being contested

Yeah I get that GM but come on he was very silly to do what he did.

Can you be that silly in the job he's in and expect to stay in employment?

I'd be gone if I did summat that daft tbh pal.

I dont care about the politics here as it's not my passion but for me he was so foolish he should go.

That said I'm not that fussed either way as it's not my passion.

I'll leave that to everyone else on her lol.

[KerrAvon]

From the commonslibrary website:

The law

On Thursday 26 and Saturday 28 March regulations were made across the UK which gave the police (and others if designated) powers to enforce the lockdown. The regulations have three main effects:

1. They significantly restrict the free movement of people by making it an offence to be leave home without a “reasonable excuse” and (with some exceptions) to gather in groups of more than two.

Cummings decided to go on a 60 mile round trip without a reasonable excuse didn't he? Unless you count him going to drive in order to see if his eyes were fit to drive as 'reasonable'?

Easy now. You'll have Inspector Mikey on your case.

[KerrAvon]

They broke a trust. Johnson and the Government had a deal with the British people that we would stick to the rules lockdown - despite the suffering it was for the greater good and help others.

Johnson and Cumming broke the deal.

I hope the British public have more moral integrity than Johnson and Cummings. I hope we stick to the regulation when asked to do so in the future.

My fear, with many, the deal is fragile. It could end in more deaths.

'Broke a trust' is slightly more impressive than 'he might have had an accident that required the attendance of the emergency services', but the fact remains that his actions posed neglible risk to anyone. If you want a lynching then fair enough, but count me out of the posse.

Anyone who decides to abandon social distancing as a consequence of his 'example' was quite clearly looking for an excuse to do so.

[ragingpup]

'Broke a trust' is slightly more impressive than 'he might have had an accident that required the attendance of the emergency services', but the fact remains that his actions posed neglible risk to anyone. If you want a lynching then fair enough, but count me out of the posse.

Anyone who decides to abandon social distancing as a consequence of his 'example' was quite clearly looking for an excuse to do so.

It isn't about one journey though is it - it's about us collectively. I think that one of the points of the 'don't make unnecessary journeys' was to avoid the danger of breakdowns/accidents and necessity of assistance and therefore endangering others. I'm not sure you're getting the grasp of the importance of 'collective responsibility' which is the point made by the senior scientific advisor I linked to yesterday. That's the whole point of that.

However, as I've said repeatedly, that journey up North isn't the problem many have issues with. It's the journey to the castle, the blatant lie behind it, and the blatant lies from the Government in the press conference last Friday ("he stayed at the farm for 2 weeks and made no journeys").