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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    So, AF, reports that Robinson was influenced by Fuentes/Groyper are incorrect?
    In situations like this where an unbiased conclusion is required I usually refer to Deepseek, I'm sure you don't because of your boycott of china so I've included both the Deepseek and ChatGPT response to the question 'was Tyler Robinson influenced by Nick Fuentes or Groyper?' Note I've used the word 'influenced' not 'aware of', on the same basis that I'm 'aware of' the Nottingham Forest Website but not influenced by it.

    Deepseek: While Robinson's online activity included elements that sometimes appear in Groyper-related spaces, there is no conclusive evidence that he was influenced by Nick Fuentes. His actions appear more rooted in a broader, irony-soaked online culture than in a specific ideological framework

    ChatGPT: There’s no confirmed evidence so far that Robinson was directly influenced by Nick Fuentes or the Groypers—or that he formally belonged to those groups.

    So the reports appear to lack foundation
    Last edited by Andy_Faber; 14-09-2025 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    So, AF, reports that Robinson was influenced by Fuentes/Groyper are incorrect?
    You also stated that he was 'MAGA'

    Deepseek he say 'while Robinson grew up in a conservative, Trump supporting family, his own political affiliation was unaffiliated, and his actions and messages suggest views opposed to the MAGA movement'. The investigation is ongoing but current evidence does not suport the idea that he was affilliated to MAGA'

    'Right Wing'

    Deepseek advises ''Tyler Robinson is not considered right wing based on available evidence'

    'Mormon'

    Not sure what the relevance is but anyway

    Deepseek tells me 'Robinson was raised in a Mormon environment but likely not a practising Mormon at the time of the shooting. His trajectory shows a shift from a devout upbringng to radicalization in online spaces, leading to a rejection of the faith's communal and non-violent values'

    I think you picked the wrong source for your info MA
    Last edited by Andy_Faber; 14-09-2025 at 02:30 PM.

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    While the cause might he different there is a valid comparison though imo. Someone in need of help and people, for some reason, are too busy or disinterested to offer help. I sort of get people may be less inclined where there might be a danger to themselves so you could argue there is a difference there.

    But while others failed, Andy offered help and that's worth praising even though I'm positive praise was the farthest thing from his kind at the time.

    Having seen the video on that train I still find it hard to comprehend not one of those sat near her showed interest in helping her. Apparantly someone did offer help around 2 minutes later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    While the cause might he different there is a valid comparison though imo. Someone in need of help and people, for some reason, are too busy or disinterested to offer help. I sort of get people may be less inclined where there might be a danger to themselves so you could argue there is a difference there.

    But while others failed, Andy offered help and that's worth praising even though I'm positive praise was the farthest thing from his kind at the time.

    Having seen the video on that train I still find it hard to comprehend not one of those sat near her showed interest in helping her. Apparantly someone did offer help around 2 minutes later.
    I doubt we saved his life my point was the disinterest from others.

    Regarding Kirk, It would appear that the predicted post assassination riots haven’t happened but theres a retribution of another sort going on - those who celebrated his killing on-line are being identified to their workplaces (in fact I believe there’s been an app set up for the purpose) and in many cases subsequently relieved of their jobs. I don’t agree with ‘cancel culture’ from whatever ‘side’ but this does seem to be evening things up.

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    Stupid Question. When someone reference a post number, how do I easily find it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    Stupid Question. When someone reference a post number, how do I easily find it?
    Not sure what you’re using, Sith, but on my iPad there’s a thick black line separating each post with the post number on the right eg #4134 and the details of when the post was made on the left.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 14-09-2025 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    Stupid Question. When someone reference a post number, how do I easily find it?
    if you're on lptop/desktop its in the top right hand corner of the post. If you're on mobile you're buggered

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    Yeah on my phone. Explains why I'm being dumb ha.

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    Ta AF for the AI reports.

    Not looking at reports from any sources, just having seen the video of the alleged shooter leaving the roof, I have a question regarding it. The FBI has said they found the rifle in the woods. I'm presuming on this that they mean the woods towards which the alleged shooter ran. Hard to see that they are referring to a different wood. On the video, it doesn't look as though the alleged shooter is carrying a rifle. I'm trying to understand how someone without a rifle can dump said rifle in the woods. How did he do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Ta AF for the AI reports.

    Not looking at reports from any sources, just having seen the video of the alleged shooter leaving the roof, I have a question regarding it. The FBI has said they found the rifle in the woods. I'm presuming on this that they mean the woods towards which the alleged shooter ran. Hard to see that they are referring to a different wood. On the video, it doesn't look as though the alleged shooter is carrying a rifle. I'm trying to understand how someone without a rifle can dump said rifle in the woods. How did he do it?
    I thought 'dumping in the woods' was a bit random but who knows what goes through someone's mind when they've just shot someone. I'm sure 'Utah Uni Roof' and 'the woods' will be the grassy knoll and book depository of the 21st century

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