Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[ozleeds]

I thought you needed to have a job organised and access to a certain amount of money.

No as long as you can prove you have money to look after yourself you can come in while students get easy visas. Look if you have 15k here you go to an office pay it and instantly you have a wife from Philippines without doing anything yourself. Like I said before money is the only tool you need and not much off it.

[spaldy]

MT, Oz,

learned a little on this. Kind of fascinating and it's not an "exact number or science" for countries. They all have various "waiver or Temp visa programs so it kind of skews the numbers. You would think that adding legal citiizens would be a kind of "exact science" kind of thing. Especially when they can track a sick cow across the country years later but can't seem to count people correctly.

Of course, the US is not included in any of this. They let it somewhere between 8-21,000,000 immigrants with no vetting at all. Many from countries that have non favored nation status with us (enemies). What could possibly go wrong with that approach.

It is interesting to note that there are quite a few countries where no one is trying to immigrate too.

[ozleeds]

MT, Oz,

learned a little on this. Kind of fascinating and it's not an "exact number or science" for countries. They all have various "waiver or Temp visa programs so it kind of skews the numbers. You would think that adding legal citiizens would be a kind of "exact science" kind of thing. Especially when they can track a sick cow across the country years later but can't seem to count people correctly.

Of course, the US is not included in any of this. They let it somewhere between 8-21,000,000 immigrants with no vetting at all. Many from countries that have non favored nation status with us (enemies). What could possibly go wrong with that approach.

It is interesting to note that there are quite a few countries where no one is trying to immigrate too.

Of course where would criminals go for easy dollars. Uk Au America Canada so on they wouldn't go to china or pacific islands or russia. The other thing locals talk about is bringing only professional people to meet declining supply because they don't teach the people that live there so most of us leave school without any skills. So this is where the problem is. Professional people bring in kids. i mean Lebanese are all over Au although there parent's came here to escape we know what and good intentional, there kids are a different story they work together to create criminal networks and get taught to hate westerners that are trying to give them a better life. We have our neighbors from New Zealand being the poorer sister come here in droves and run all the bike gangs full of illegal activities. Than they have a soft heard and bring in all this Africans trying to help them and once again it's not the parents but there kids choosing the crime life like back in there country instead the harder way of working for a living and doing something with there life's. Asians on the other hand work hard take all the westerners jobs buy up all the housing and send all the funds back to there own country. I'm sure it's something similar to you guys in your own countries even little Greece is coping it from all fronts.
I love watching futuristic shows and movies and as I watch I think to myself how Earth going to become a wasteland? Than a look at Gaza Ukraine Africa and troubles in Asia and middle east and I say to my self f we are not so far from it.
Anyway I hope I'm wrong and a doomsayer and This time of the season wake up in the New year and everything is fine, I hope so anyway.

[ozleeds]

Ps Australia is a mess and quickly losing it's stature so hopefully they all pack up and go somewhere else. We have gone from top 4 spot prospered country in the world to 30 and on a deep dive. We were told come to Australia work get a Holden car (GM to you guys) and a House you will be set for life. Now we can't afford a house ,Holden is gone and we have no money lol

[WTF11]

Of course, the "man of the people" and the latter day saint of all that is holy wouldn't dream of selling his soul (or accepting money from those who would) to the devil, hmmmm?

"Social media commenters quickly condemned Apple CEO Tim Cook after a report he joined other billionaires in donating to President-elect Donald Trump's inauguration.

Axios reported Friday afternoon, citing anonymous sources, that Cook plans to personally donate $1 million to Trump's inaugural committee. Cook is worth about $2.3 billion, according to Forbes.

The donation comes after Cook reportedly dined with Trump last month at Mar-a-Lago. It also comes as billionaires cozy up to the incoming president, including tech executives Sam Altman of OpenAI, Mark Zuckerberg of Meta, and Jeff Bezos of Amazon, who each donated $1 million to Trump's inaugural fund."

If you have a large enough chequebook, or deep enough pockets, Trump is your man. Was it always so, just be refreshing if for once they were honest about the depths of corruption they would descend into.

[spaldy]

That?s a good point. Trumps the only politician that?s taken money from donors.

In fact, the reason pelosi has made 400 million in the stock market is that she?s that much better than everyone else. The reason that Biden has 22 companies that make no product but has over 300 bank accounts including a lot of offshore accounts is because he?s pure as the driven snow. The fact Bernie sands owns over 40 million in real estate with no liens but has never had a job is because he?s that good of an investor. They are all saints in DC but trump


Here?s what really matters to people who live in the US and work for a living

Costs for thing such as basic food, fuel, utilities, taxes, insurance, autos, housing is up over 30% the last four years. Wages up 8%

Add in 10-21 million unvetted illegal aliens and crime rates ballooning and schools that don?t teach basic math, reading and civics and you end up with Trump

[ozleeds]

That?s a good point. Trumps the only politician that?s taken money from donors.

In fact, the reason pelosi has made 400 million in the stock market is that she?s that much better than everyone else. The reason that Biden has 22 companies that make no product but has over 300 bank accounts including a lot of offshore accounts is because he?s pure as the driven snow. The fact Bernie sands owns over 40 million in real estate with no liens but has never had a job is because he?s that good of an investor. They are all saints in DC but trump


Here?s what really matters to people who live in the US and work for a living

Costs for thing such as basic food, fuel, utilities, taxes, insurance, autos, housing is up over 30% the last four years. Wages up 8%

Add in 10-21 million unvetted illegal aliens and crime rates ballooning and schools that don?t teach basic math, reading and civics and you end up with Trump

jUST READING LAST COUPLE WEEKS 550K PEOPLE LOST THERE JOBS OVER THERE I guess they need more homeless to fill the streets. If this is what trump is going to bring which will happen as it is mr Elon Musks doing millions will lose there jobs to appease investors. It is happening world wide. History dictates the poor always pay why change now.

[WTF11]

Not even "in office" and Musk (let's not forget he hasn't been elected to anything and has never been involved in any governmental activity of ANY kind), questions whetger America should "liberate" the UK from its "tyrannical" government;

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/06/...e-britain.html

Before he or anyone else in the USA begins to attempt to interfere with our government (whatever the colour of the ruling party), I'd suggest they get their own house in order.

In short Elon F00K THE HELL OFF AND GET ON BOARD ONE OF YOUR OWN BOOSTERS, cheeky f00ker.

[Sniffer999]

Not even "in office" and Musk (let's not forget he hasn't been elected to anything and has never been involved in any governmental activity of ANY kind), questions whetger America should "liberate" the UK from its "tyrannical" government;

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/06/...e-britain.html

Before he or anyone else in the USA begins to attempt to interfere with our government (whatever the colour of the ruling party), I'd suggest they get their own house in order.

In short Elon F00K THE HELL OFF AND GET ON BOARD ONE OF YOUR OWN BOOSTERS, cheeky f00ker.

They are getting their own house in order.

Sending 100 people from the Labour party to USA canvassing for Democrats seems to be where it started.

Then look at how the UK is run now. Musk doesn't have to be elected in the UK to make comment, that is his right. He also says what all of the UK thinks, other than those who think child abuse of the worst type is ok.

[WTF11]

They are getting their own house in order.

Sending 100 people from the Labour party to USA canvassing for Democrats seems to be where it started.

Then look at how the UK is run now. Musk doesn't have to be elected in the UK to make comment, that is his right. He also says what all of the UK thinks, other than those who think child abuse of the worst type is ok.

Then let them do so but unless and until they do then Musk and his ilk can f00k the hell off from sticking their self-opinionated unelected nose into affairs they have f00k all to do with.

He can make comment but suggesting that America can "liberate" the UK from anything suggests he has learned nothing from recent history, from WWII through to the disastrous actions in the middle and far a east.

And if you think my criticism of Musk and his interference in UK politics implies any kind of acceptance of child abuse on my part you best watch your back.