Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

Only by someone who delights in doing ?his own? down

So thinking that s@xism, homophobia, racism, Xenophobia, misogyny do not represent British values is doing the country down?

I guess joining a march organised by amongst others a known far right and convicted criminal activist, financed by shadowy billionaire who has been shown to be pushing a pro Israel narrative (whilst financing fascists!!) and platforming people with extreme right wing views from France, New Zealand pus of course allowing Musk, to call for a democratically elected government to be overthrown violently if necessary is just "uniting the country"?

It is possible, if one is a vaguely sentient being, to criticise certain aspects of Uk life, without necessarily doing one's own country down.

[swaledale]

What an extraordinary question. Because others share the same or similar values doesn't mean they can't be British as well. The Greeks "invented" democracy but it's still a British value...well probably one that's fading away under Starmer 😃 (that's meant to be a joke before your knickers get too twisted)

RA wasn't saying that though was he? He was pushing back against those who make the spurious claim that those values held to be British are not shared by foreigners!

[swaledale]

Interesting to read that a member of a group that's been erecting flags in Manchester and was a leader in last Saturdays march in London was convicted in 2016

In 2016, Twamley was stopped at the border. In the back of his Ford Connect van were four Vietnamese people he was attempting to smuggle into the country. He was later convicted for being part of a five-person illegal immigration operation and sentenced to 20 months in prison. At the time, Ben Thomas, of Immigration Enforcement’s crime team for the North West, said: “This shameless gang plotted to bring desperate people into the UK illegally purely for their own financial gain.”


So some of these "patriots" not only have convictions or cautions for domestic violence against women, but also convictions for smuggling migrants into the country illegally!

[SithHappens]

So after spending the past few weeks claiming he stopped the war between albania and azerbaijan, trump is now claiming he stopped the war between Armenia and Cambodia.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think he meant Azerbaijan as both have an A in them. He must have been successful as the Grand Prix went ahead today without warlike intervention. Thanks to the Donald

[SithHappens]

Alfreton and Arnold maybe

[MadAmster]

Also claimed to have stopped the India/Pakistan war. Both countries have said "oh no you didn't".

Hardly surprising when you remember that, about 10 years ago, the FFF introduced the term "alternative facts" to the world. A total misnomer, of course, as they weren't facts. Just a collection of words that fit his narrative. Many view his alt facts to, actually, be lies.

[Geoff Parkstone]

That's where Swale got the notion from, I did wonder

[swaledale]

That's where Swale got the notion from, I did wonder

Mm and I'm still waiting for you to cite actual evidence of where Khan has failed as Mayor of London!

Its telling that both you and AF like to carp about plagiarism, cut and paste (even when all I did was post some statistics from a reputable source FFS!) rather than actually rebut the facts posted.

Mind you when AF states that by paying the BBC Licence fee, one is supporting the excessive monetisation of the PL, despite the FACT, that it was and is the revenue from SKY and other platforms that does this AND was the very reason the PL was formed I guess sometimes on here facts are a whatever the person posting chooses to think they are. Ho Hum.

[SithHappens]

I'm starting to think whoever is sending Trump out to make these speeches is pissing themselves laughing.

Maybe they put bets on to see who get can him to talk the most *******s.