Election Year or Fear!

[SithHappens]

Red Tories it is then. Very little will change... IMO.

While I agree in some respects I think the biggest change will be a government with a mandate to govern. In my head this one lost that with the repeated leader changes and lost trust in the public.

[SithHappens]

I have never voted Conservative and never will, I know a few "decent" Conservatives but the main party always reverts to type and latterly gone beyond even that.

I think I've voted labour once, otherwise its generally the candidate most likely to challenge the Tory incumbent.

Interesting that you voted conservative to "get Bliar" out, obviously didn't work, because in 2010 a vote against labour would have removed Brown, who IMO was one of the better PM's we have and paved the way for Clegg to make his disastrous decision (not for him given his role at meta obvs) to go into coalition with Cameron and usher in the last disastrous 14 years.

I'd vote green, but they do rather get their undergarments in a twist over gender identity, whereas sticking to the case for building a "green" economy would be more beneficial, but again realistically they aren't going to be in a position to change anything. Note I don't have an issue with people changing gender, but its been spun into something more than it really is on both sides of the debate. Such matters are never settled in a political arena and frankly don't impinge on most voters.

So this time it will again be weighing who is best placed to beat the Tory incumbent, if I have to hold my nose and vote labour I will, much as I dislike the shift to the right, and despite the undoubted missteps and faults of labour when in power previously, its clear that almost everything, be it NHS, poverty levels, the economy were all in much better shape before the current rabble took charge.

I will never vote Lib Dem ever again, Clegg's duplicity and selling his soul for power has done for that.

Unfortunately under the current FPTP voting system, its a 2 horse race, unfortunately also, the "Overton Window" has shifted to the right, meaning a true centre left party would struggle to gain enough votes across the country to get into power. Without a government that is at least reasonably sympathetic to the "average" citizen in the UK then the rampant crony capitalism will continue.

A sad state of affairs but the eality.

Interesting you say Brown was one of our best PM's, I agree, he did well in very trying times. Controversially I think Major was a decent PM too. Both probably paid the price for the governing of their predecessors.

[swaledale]

Gove and leadsom not standing again! The rats are really leaving the sinking ship!

Rumour has it 4 more MP's will go soon, Grant Shapps plus Michael green, Corrine Stockheath and Sebastian Fox!!!

[ramAnag]

Gove and leadsom not standing again! The rats are really leaving the sinking ship!

Rumour has it 4 more MP's will go soon, Grant Shapps plus Michael green, Corrine Stockheath and Sebastian Fox!!!

Amazing…from their huge and ‘stonking’ majority of four and a half years ago to complete and unprecedented chaos, with 78 - and counting - Tory MP’s walking away. So pleased to see the back of crazy Gove, cruel Leadsom and the frankly bizarre Redwood, but if we’re really also seeing the end of Grant Shapps it’ll almost feel like an election victory already.

[Andy_Faber]

Amazing…from their huge and ‘stonking’ majority of four and a half years ago to complete and unprecedented chaos, with 78 - and counting - Tory MP’s walking away. So pleased to see the back of crazy Gove, cruel Leadsom and the frankly bizarre Redwood, but if we’re really also seeing the end of Grant Shapps it’ll almost feel like an election victory already.

I’m worried for you, You’re running out of people to slag off

[MadAmster]

I’m worried for you, You’re running out of people to slag off

I wouldn't worry if I were you, AF. It won't be long before the Red Tories prove as incompetent as their Blue counterparts and he can start on them. I'm merely wondering who'll get into 'em first, rA or TTR

[ramAnag]

I wouldn't worry if I were you, AF. It won't be long before the Red Tories prove as incompetent as their Blue counterparts and he can start on them. I'm merely wondering who'll get into 'em first, rA or TTR

Strange post, MA. There’s a difference between, in your words, ‘getting into’ a Government that’s been overseeing disasters for the last 8-14 years and finding fault with those who are new to office. I certainly have no intention of ‘starting on’ any newly elected Labour Government, indeed it seems to be you ‘getting into’ them with your repeated ‘Red Tory’ taunt even at this early stage of the election campaign.

Must say, as someone who regularly agrees with you, I’m surprised and a little puzzled. We may only see a change from an increasingly Right wing Tory Government to a marginally Left of centre Labour one, but that’ll be a very welcome change imo. From what you’ve written recently I’m not actually sure what you, realistically, want the outcome to be.

[swaledale]

I’m worried for you, You’re running out of people to slag off

Hardly there are another couple of hundred or so Try MP's!! My greatest hope that we see Truss and Rees-Mogg defeated at the poll.


I note Johnson has been writing BS in the daily fail again, claiming Starmer will be a socialist PM!! I mean as per usual he is completely wrong (unfortunately).

[ramAnag]

I’m worried for you, You’re running out of people to slag off

Oh come on Andy, even you can’t deny they deserve it, and I haven’t even mentioned Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Truss, Anderson and Hancock.
Let’s face it…the standard of leadership, from the Post Office to Government, in this country is at an all time low in terms of both capability and integrity.
You were warned, but when people start looking up to the likes of Johnson, Farage and Trump then it does tend to all end in tears…just been a little quicker than anticipated.

[Ramshank72]

I always liked Sam Fox