O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[upthemaggies]

Well they already have total control, compliance by scarring the sht out of the populations, haven't read it, was mentioned in a JR podcast I was listening to the other day

If anybody accepts Bill Gates as a big player in all of this, or at least privy to all that's going on behind the scenes, then it's worth noting that he recently said on camera that he thought the pandemic would come to an end sometime in 2022.

Around the start of the pandemic, he said the next virus to follow would be a whole lot worse, dropping a little smile at the end.

[keldsyke]

Well they already have total control, compliance by scarring the sht out of the populations, haven't read it, was mentioned in a JR podcast I was listening to the other day

As I’ve said before, this compliance crap that the ‘I’m entitled brigade’ are pushing is complete *******s, in the National/ World crissises of two world wars over the last 100 years shows that men and women were conscripted to go to war, no choice with many lives lost and no say in it, but they knew what was right.

We’ve come along way since then as we shot ‘the I’m entitled / I’m offended’ by firing squad for not complying in the first world war, in the second there was a choice if you didn’t want to you worked in the mines so ‘compliance’ has been around longer than they want people to think. Perhaps try and think that you’re doing something to protect others around you rather than defending your right to selfishly not to protect yourselves and others.

[maddogslater]

I've been jabbed 3 times, I don’t know what impact it will have on me or jabbing the world long term, neither do you, perhaps try and realise other opinions exist apart from yourself.

[maddogslater]

Oh and another thing, the allies fought for freedom in WW2 not for nazi style dystopia

[keldsyke]

I've been jabbed 3 times, I don’t know what impact it will have on me or jabbing the world long term, neither do you, perhaps try and realise other opinions exist apart from yourself.

Absolutely, it’s called balance!

[applepie2]

Treatments that would mean the vaccine loses its emergency licence and would have to be withdrawn if it was accepted that they work,, particularly the cheapest option for which the patent has run out, so no big profit to be made and hence the coordinated effort from day 1 to crush them all as a viable option.

That’s not an answer to my question.

What treatments are you talking about? Inhaling or ingesting bleach? Gargling with sal****er? Colloidal silver solution? Cow or camel urine? Hydroxychloroquine? Ivermectin? None of these has been shown to be effective, and the first four are trotted out as treatments for just about everything!

Or are you talking about Pfizer’s pill currently in trials, which appears to be promising? https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...ment-candidate

Or are there other proposed treatments that I haven’t heard of, in which case what are they?

[upthemaggies]

That’s not an answer to my question.

What treatments are you talking about? Inhaling or ingesting bleach? Gargling with sal****er? Colloidal silver solution? Cow or camel urine? Hydroxychloroquine? Ivermectin? None of these has been shown to be effective, and the first four are trotted out as treatments for just about everything!

Or are you talking about Pfizer’s pill currently in trials, which appears to be promising? https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...ment-candidate

Or are there other proposed treatments that I haven’t heard of, in which case what are they?

"None of these has been shown to be effective".

Depending on who you believe.

[drillerpie]

Oh and another thing, the allies fought for freedom in WW2 not for nazi style dystopia

Please stop with the Nazi comparisons. It's just silly.

[applepie2]

"None of these has been shown to be effective".

Depending on who you believe.

I just composed a long reply and then hit cancel with my fat thumb!

Here’s a shorter version:

The first four I listed are obviously quack remedies peddled by charlatans.

Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin were originally proposed without much evidence. Where are the properly conducted trials showing efficacy which have stood up to peer review? To believe in either of those two, as effective Covid treatments, now requires a belief that the vast majority of scientists working in relevant disciplines are part of a vast conspiracy to cover up their efficacy. Pardon me if I think that’s ridiculously far fetched.

Pfizer’s new pill, still in trials, is at the stage where it’s reasonable to be sceptical, until the trials are complete and the evidence of efficacy and safety are there to be peer reviewed.

[upthemaggies]

To believe in either of those two, as effective Covid treatments, now requires a belief that the vast majority of scientists working in relevant disciplines are part of a vast conspiracy to cover up their efficacy. Pardon me if I think that’s ridiculously far fetched.

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It would be if you ignored the enormous unprecedented power big pharma now has. Think about big tech and how easy it is for them to shut down/marginalise and censor dissenting voices and rival platforms.