Froch

[KeeptheCityGround]

sorry ktcg i have to disagree, the only way calzaghe could retire was by giving up the belts as he remained unbeaten, yes calzaghe fought some duds but he beat veit twice eubanks kessler in his prime who beat froch before his skills began to wane lacey hopkins who went on to regain world titles after, roy jones junior robin reid who was in his prime and dangerous.
no one wanted to fight calzaghe and the americans who did fight him got destroyed.
froch talks too much b0ll0cks not mentally prepared etc then claims he's the consumate pro always totally prepared.
personally think groves on points he'll pick his rounds this time and get on the back foot when he needs to.
i respect froch and his take all comers attitude and think he's a good boxer but to say he's better than calzaghe is wrong imo.

I don't quite think some of you are

[matreddog]

yes ktcg i see your point, laceys career ended pretty much the same way bute's probably will and hopkins went on to regain titles again but if you agree calzaghe was the better boxer and lets be right you cant really argue with retired unbeaten hence having to vacate.
im sure calzaghe in his prime would have beat froch and groves but whenever a fighter retires thats as high profile as calzaghe then they're always going to have people calling them out wanting to fight them because they hold the titles so unless your going to retire on a loss you at some point have to refuse a fight and quit and froch wasnt even in the top ten never mind compulsory challenger so no comparison between froch and calzaghe can be drawn in that way oh and didnt calzaghe beat kessler in his prime and didnt kessler beat froch in his??

[matreddog]

plus froch's brother is a complete f0000kin n0b.
dont forget brewer was decent as well as bika when calzaghe fought them.

[i961pie]

[quote="KeeptheCityGround"]sorry ktcg i have to disagree, the only way calzaghe could retire was by giving up the belts as he remained unbeaten, yes calzaghe fought some duds but he beat veit twice eubanks kessler in his prime who beat froch before his skills began to wane lacey hopkins who went on to regain world titles after, roy jones junior robin reid who was in his prime and dangerous.
no one wanted to fight calzaghe and the americans who did fight him got destroyed.
froch talks too much b0ll0cks not mentally prepared etc then claims he's the consumate pro always totally prepared.
personally think groves on points he'll pick his rounds this time and get on the back foot when he needs to.
i respect froch and his take all comers attitude and think he's a good boxer but to say he's better than calzaghe is w

[tricky1972]

This argument is nonsense, there's an old saying 'styles make fights'.

You can fight a guy who is perfect for, you can then fight a supposedly lesser fighter that you can't deal with.

For example Frazier beat Ali, Foreman demolished Frazier, Ali beat Foreman... so who was the best heavyweight in the early 70s??

So let's leave this one, shall we

[45red]

This argument is nonsense, there's an old saying 'styles make fights'.

You can fight a guy who is perfect for, you can then fight a supposedly lesser fighter that you can't deal with.

For example Frazier beat Ali, Foreman demolished Frazier, Ali beat Foreman... so who was the best heavyweight in the early 70s??

So let's leave this one, shall we

cop out!! good fighters adapt to styles of others, its called fight preperation, and in this day and age there is no excuse with the amount of media exposure all fighters get. you cant compare the fights you referenced

[i961pie]

This argument is nonsense, there's an old saying 'styles make fights'.

You can fight a guy who is perfect for, you can then fight a supposedly lesser fighter that you can't deal with.

For example Frazier beat Ali, Foreman demolished Frazier, Ali beat Foreman... so who was the best heavyweight in the early 70s??

So let's leave this one, shall we

cop out!! good fighters adapt to styles of others, its called fight preperation, and in this day and age there is no excuse with the amount of media exposure all fighters get. you cant compare the fights you referenced[/quote]

But that is my point Froch is one dimensional, cracking fighter but what you see is what you get. Calzaghie on the other hand was intelligent and could mix it if he had to, or box that is what made him a cut above the rest.