O/T Brexit film - a (long but thoughtful) response...

[millmoormagic]

The thing is, whatever the result of the poll, everyone will get on with their lives, we'll still have a sheite gov't ripping ordinary folk off, i just think that there's really no need to put that extra hassle on many people in the short term, as there's no doubt that leving will affect the economics of Britain in the short term, i think that's now a given on all sides. As for a EU army, i don't really get the hysteria this has caused, there's no way that we'd hand over control of OUR armed forces to anyone, we may add some of our troops to an EU army.

[jolly_roger]

Interesting that comment about shyte government. Cameron and Osborn are out on a limb and a leave vote will finish them off and split the Tory party.

A heaven sent opportunity for the Labour Party you would think, but no, after years of being anti EU Jeremy Corbyn suddenly thinks it's a good idea and wants Labour supporters to vote stay even though cheap foreign labour will undermine wages for the lower paid.

Labour supporters voting stay will be by default keeping this shyte government in power and strengthen Cameron's position and standing.

[millmoormagic]

You keep on this track about "cheap labour" driving wages down, whether we're in or out, that same "cheap labour" will continue to come into Britain.
As for the stuff about the gov't, i totally agree, and that's why this is a difficult one for me, on one side, if the country votes to leave, i actually do think that it will strengthen the Labour party, as it would probably take back the voters who have gone over to Ukip, as then Ukip would be without a purpose and fade off, if the country votes to remain, like you said, the same clowns running the country, albeit though that the tory party will be dangerously split, in my opinion.

[caytonmiller]

[quote="millmoormagic" will continue to come into Britain.
As for the stuff about the gov't, i totally agree, and that's why this is a difficult one for me, on one side, if the country votes to leave, i actually do think that it will strengthen the Labour party, as it would probably take back the voters who have gone over to Ukip, as then Ukip would be without a purpose and fade off, if the country votes to remain, like you said, the same clowns running the country, albeit though that the tory party will be dangerously split, in my opinion.[/quote]

perfect reason for leaving. stay and parties like ukip become stronger.

interesting that this message board its 75/25% in favour of leave.
Do i think we will? no why because the fat cats wont allow it...

youngsters unemployment in several eu countrys is well over 40% if these same youn

[harpo88]

[quote="caytonmiller" will continue to come into Britain.
As for the stuff about the gov't, i totally agree, and that's why this is a difficult one for me, on one side, if the country votes to leave, i actually do think that it will strengthen the Labour party, as it would probably take back the voters who have gone over to Ukip, as then Ukip would be without a purpose and fade off, if the country votes to remain, like you said, the same clowns running the country, albeit though that the tory party will be dangerously split, in my opinion.[/quote]

perfect reason for leaving. stay and parties like ukip become stronger.

interesting that this message board its 75/25% in favour of leave.
Do i think we will? no why because the fat cats wont allow it...

youngsters unemployment in several eu

[jolly_roger]

Jobless EU migrants got a total of about £890 million in benefits paid to them last year.

A jobless EU migrant pays no tax but has full access to the NHS and other "free" services

However we are not on our own, Germany is considering a 5 year ban on paying benefits to EU migrants. If they do bring that into German law where will their jobless EU migrants go?

No prizes for guessing.

[walter10]

And if we left and got rid of all low paid EU workers and paid a higher rate the UK workers it would lead to inflation - but that, we are told, is scaremongering.

[walter10]

If Germany are able to adopt a 5 year ban on paying EU migrants benefits then the precedent is set in EU law and we can do the same.

Some people are easily scared Jolly.

[walter10]

I hear there are a similar number of jobless British immigrants in other EU countries as there are unemployed migrants from other EU countries here. Jobless Brits pay no tax and get access to free healthcare in other EU countries. If we voted out it would be a straight swap - British immigrants return here as EU immigrants return.