the weird and very often brain dead world of Scottish football.

[Sevvy too 2]

Our very first 11 had a catholic player, another left us to sign for the yahoos first 11, we have had many a Catholic play for us over the years, do you have any evidence of this singing policy, if it was in place for 100 years you must have lots of evidence.

Your creator was a sectarian bigot, that is without question, Wally hated proddies, FACT.

You weren't set up as a charity, it was a businessman venture by wide Irishmen, who knew exactly what they were doing, pretend to be all welcoming and get an IRA man to open the ground, playing to the bigots was established from day one.

The yahoo true history is truly vile, the yahoo never utters the true history, liars from birth.

" Singing policy"? Ha ha ha, see that's what happens when you try to look clever by pulling someone up over their spelling or grammar. . F@nny.

[Sevvy too 2]

A wee snippet from the Scottish learning and teaching guide.....



Religious divisions and tensions
Their lowly occupational status and their willingness to work for less than the going rate did not endear Irish Catholics to the Scottish working class. Indeed, their religion was a factor which gave rise to discrimination from all sections of Scottish society. Since the Reformation, Scotland had been a Protestant country and Catholicism was largely anathema. Attacks on the Irish became commonplace in newspapers, pulpits and on the streets.

As late as 1923, the Church of Scotland could still publish a pamphlet entitled ‘The Menace of the Irish race to our Scottish Nationality’. The Irish were seen as drunken, idle, uncivilised and undermining the moral fibre of Scottish society. They were also seen as carriers of disease. Typhus, for example, was known as ‘Irish fever’.

Although the accusations had some force, they had nothing to do with ethnicity and more to do with poverty. The incidence of fever among the Irish was due to their unsanitary housing. It was also because many of the immigrants who arrived fleeing the famine were so weak that their resistance to disease was low. The Irish-born in Dundee constituted 20% of all burials in 1848, whereas seven years earlier they had only constituted 5%




Now for a wee contrast...........??




The same charge could not be levelled at the Protestant Irish. As Catholic Irish immigrants declined in number in the late 1870s and 1880s, the Protestant Irish took up the slack. Most of these new immigrants came from the most Orange counties of the north, such as Armagh. There had been historic links of an economic and religious kind between the west of Scotland and Ulster.

Even the Church of Scotland recognised that in their 1923 attack on the Catholic Irish ‘[no complaint can be made about] the presence of an Orange population in Scotland. They are of the same race as ourselves and of the same Faith, and are readily assimilated to the Scottish race’. Thus, the Protestant Irish faced nothing like the level of discrimination endured by the Catholic Irish.



But it had nothing to do with them or religion, it was all the fault of those Irish catholic basturts who spurned the welcome from the indigenous populace.

[Cambusman]

" Singing policy"? Ha ha ha, see that's what happens when you try to look clever by pulling someone up over their spelling or grammar. . F@nny.

His really is a branless chunt

[mogwaiCSC]

Our very first 11 had a catholic player, another left us to sign for the yahoos first 11, we have had many a Catholic play for us over the years, do you have any evidence of this singing policy, if it was in place for 100 years you must have lots of evidence.

Your creator was a sectarian bigot, that is without question, Wally hated proddies, FACT.

You weren't set up as a charity, it was a businessman venture by wide Irishmen, who knew exactly what they were doing, pretend to be all welcoming and get an IRA man to open the ground, playing to the bigots was established from day one.

The yahoo true history is truly vile, the yahoo never utters the true history, liars from birth.

when you put FACT at an end of a sentence it invariably means it is a load of guff, which it is


I suppose you are going to now tell us Sandy Jardine, the Rangers legend who has a stand named after him is talking mince?

"When I came here in 1964, we had no Catholics," he said. "Not just the playing staff, anywhere. There was no bit of paper, it was an unwritten rule. David Murray changed that and it moved on significantly in 1989 when Maurice Johnston signed. You cannot clear up 80 years of sectarianism in eight months, but we are a huge way down the road."

[Rangersmandownunder]

A wee snippet from the Scottish learning and teaching guide.....



Religious divisions and tensions
Their lowly occupational status and their willingness to work for less than the going rate did not endear Irish Catholics to the Scottish working class. Indeed, their religion was a factor which gave rise to discrimination from all sections of Scottish society. Since the Reformation, Scotland had been a Protestant country and Catholicism was largely anathema. Attacks on the Irish became commonplace in newspapers, pulpits and on the streets.

As late as 1923, the Church of Scotland could still publish a pamphlet entitled ‘The Menace of the Irish race to our Scottish Nationality’. The Irish were seen as drunken, idle, uncivilised and undermining the moral fibre of Scottish society. They were also seen as carriers of disease. Typhus, for example, was known as ‘Irish fever’.

Although the accusations had some force, they had nothing to do with ethnicity and more to do with poverty. The incidence of fever among the Irish was due to their unsanitary housing. It was also because many of the immigrants who arrived fleeing the famine were so weak that their resistance to disease was low. The Irish-born in Dundee constituted 20% of all burials in 1848, whereas seven years earlier they had only constituted 5%




Now for a wee contrast...........??




The same charge could not be levelled at the Protestant Irish. As Catholic Irish immigrants declined in number in the late 1870s and 1880s, the Protestant Irish took up the slack. Most of these new immigrants came from the most Orange counties of the north, such as Armagh. There had been historic links of an economic and religious kind between the west of Scotland and Ulster.

Even the Church of Scotland recognised that in their 1923 attack on the Catholic Irish ‘[no complaint can be made about] the presence of an Orange population in Scotland. They are of the same race as ourselves and of the same Faith, and are readily assimilated to the Scottish race’. Thus, the Protestant Irish faced nothing like the level of discrimination endured by the Catholic Irish.



But it had nothing to do with them or religion, it was all the fault of those Irish catholic basturts who spurned the welcome from the indigenous populace.

It had everything to do with religion sevvy, that's the point mate, the yahoos were formed because of religion, your founder was a bigot who hated Protestants, or hated the fact his downtrodden folk were being exposed to the horrors of Presbyterianism, he may had good reason to hate the proddies, but he wanted to start this club for Catholics and only Catholics, there would have been no religious divide within Scottish football had you lot just been started for football reasons, but the Irish businessmen saw the attraction of the religious angle, they knew it was a thorny issue that would bring the crowds in, I'll say this for your founders, they were clever men who knew exactly what they were doing in creating the sectarian divide that is still with us to this day.

If the reformation hadn't happened in Scotland the nation would have stagnated like Ireland, the Catholic church would have ensured the population was kept down and uneducated the very same as it did to the poor Irish folk, there wouldn't have been any mass migration from Ireland to Glasgow as we would not have had the same impact on the industrial revolution that saw us become the second city in the empire and for obvious reasons the Catholic church detests this period in history and uses it to illustrate points whilst glossing over their own atrocities.

The famine was nearly half a decade before the yahoos were created, it is irrelevant to their existence, yet they bleat on about it like it was yesterday, and the blight affected Scotland to with over third of the population of the highlands dying, migrating to the lower lands or to the US, Canada and over here.

The indigenous Glasgow population had shyte housing, child labour and rampant epidemics long before the Irish came to join us in the slums you know..........

"A look at the city's buildings provides evidence of the great wealth which was still being generated as the 19th century gave way to the 20th, but for many industries growth was faltering. The social problems too were mounting. By the 1820s and 1830s there was already comment on the difficulties being experienced in coping with the very rapid growth of population. What were once elegant squares were getting built up. What were once mansions for a single family were being made down to house a dozen or more. By the 1840s some of the city's housing conditions were regarded as among the worst in Europe. Overcrowding and a highly mobile population made the city vulnerable to epidemics. Cholera came in lethal waves. Typhus and typhoid struck with depressing regularity in foul housing "backlands" or in dingy lodging houses. Polluted water supplies, a smog-laden atmosphere and a lack of sunlight were ripe conditions for chronic illnesses as well as epidemics."

Glasgow gave the Irish a home and you spit it back in its face, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

PS, this merely illustrates my belief that the mythical sky fairy has a lot to answer for.

[Rangersmandownunder]

when you put FACT at an end of a sentence it invariably means it is a load of guff, which it is


I suppose you are going to now tell us Sandy Jardine, the Rangers legend who has a stand named after him is talking mince?

"When I came here in 1964, we had no Catholics," he said. "Not just the playing staff, anywhere. There was no bit of paper, it was an unwritten rule. David Murray changed that and it moved on significantly in 1989 when Maurice Johnston signed. You cannot clear up 80 years of sectarianism in eight months, but we are a huge way down the road."

Right so you given me proof there was no policy, can you imagine people back years ago not letting another into their club due to what they believed or who they were, no wonder that golf game never took off, oh wait a minute!

[mogwaiCSC]

A long and blinkered rant about catholicism then a denial that Rangers ever discriminated against catholics, I think can be filed away under disingenuous rambling. You need to stop projecting your own prejudices on to others sheila.

[Taintedice]

rolf is the daftest hun this forum has ever had, his views are that far removed from reality, even the wallow wallowers would have problems with them.

[Rangersmandownunder]

A long and blinkered rant about catholicism then a denial that Rangers ever discriminated against catholics, I think can be filed away under disingenuous rambling. You need to stop projecting your own prejudices on to others sheila.

Not a rant, simply facts, you are welcome to prove me wrong on any of my points.

I never said we didn't "discriminate" against Catholics, I said there was no policy, I have been proven correct again on this fact.

We discriminated against Catholics and the yahoo done the same against Protestants at board level, your club was set up to provide for Catholics only, why do you deny these facts?

[Sevvy too 2]

Our club was set up to provide for the poor of the East End which back then were predominantly Irish Catholics, do you have any proof that Protestants were turned away from s? Though why you think a Protestant would want to come to a "Catholic" charity in the first place beggars belief as according to you they were tramps who I'm sure would have had their charitable dinner tables, let's face it dude, you don't like Catholics, we get that, but for you to reach back over a century to state as fact stuff you or the rest of the dhubs couldn't
know anything about takes your bigotry to a new level, you are just to cowardly to admit it, like most of you dhubs,