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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    you should email that to the SNP headquarters as if they really want a second referendum they need to explain how everything will work instead of the nonsense fat eck came away with i.e. it'll be alright on the night. Which it won't.
    Nail, head, hammer.

    Those who want independence at any cost are the ones who have closed minds. Those open to independence but want to know the cost are called traitors, britnats blah blah blah.

    Wee stuartie has said if having the euro was the price for independence he would happily accept it.

    Wonder what would be too high a price to pay

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    This is all academic anyway an Independent Scotland which I believe will happen sooner than later will be in uncharted territory it may well be Scotland would retain its EU membership with terms and conditions already in place.. some EU officials have already said this may be possible. would we retain any of the UK's exemptions? That would have to be negotiated with the 26 member states of the EU

    I suspect if and when this situation arises it will be down to the Scottish people to decide via Referendum. If the result is yes then its yes ..If its No the EU will respect that as they have done in Sweden. The EU Commission have publicly accepted that the decision will be made by Sweden. If the people of Sweden continue to say no, then Sweden will not be joining the euro.

    Wonder no more Noah if the price of Scotland being Independent was Scotland and its people being worse off that would be too high a price to pay.

    However I firmly believe and based on the information I have garnered over the years Scotland has the people the resources the know how and the right to be Independent. I also believe Scotland would be a more equal and fairer society its for those reasons I fight for Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post

    Wonder no more Noah if the price of Scotland being Independent was Scotland and its people being worse off that would be too high a price to pay.
    What about the £14bn hole in income/expenditure that's just been announced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    What about the £14bn hole in income/expenditure that's just been announced?
    Don't worry about trivial little things lime that Noah, we have the resources and the people to deal with it. Are you stupid or something ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodie80 View Post
    Don't worry about trivial little things lime that Noah, we have the resources and the people to deal with it. Are you stupid or something ?
    And we could do without your sarcasm Bodie. Show a bit o respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    What about the £14bn hole in income/expenditure that's just been announced?
    What about it ? Its almost the same as it was last year only difference is a fall of 2Bn to 60 M in oil&gas revenues. That's quite an achievement for a country supposedly totally dependent on Oil revenues. To me that shows Scotland's economy is doing good. Care to comment on the UK deficit 1.64 TRILLION the last time I looked. If an Independent Scotland couldn't do better than that we wouldn't deserve to be Independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    What about it ? Its almost the same as it was last year only difference is a fall of 2Bn to 60 M in oil&gas revenues. That's quite an achievement for a country supposedly totally dependent on Oil revenues. To me that shows Scotland's economy is doing good. Care to comment on the UK deficit 1.64 TRILLION the last time I looked. If an Independent Scotland couldn't do better than that we wouldn't deserve to be Independent.

    That's the thing unionists are happy to down Scotland but never compare how we are doing compared to our very good friends over the border

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    For me if the price of Independence was using the Euro fine. But before Noah jumps in I'd much rather prefer our own currency.
    if you're happy to be the voice of the SNP on here, then you're going to have to explain exactly what will happen if you hope to convince folk like noah that independence is workable from day one. iScotland can't use the Euro for at least 2-3 years, it can't use sterling, so what exactly will it use? Sturgeon said a new currency supported by a central bank, which is fine. Will this be stable, pegged to sterling, or allowed to float and find its own value. What if it ends up worth only 50p or valued at £1.50, how is that going to work in practice. The SNP need to have answers to these questions or are doomed to failure for a second and final time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    if you're happy to be the voice of the SNP on here, then you're going to have to explain exactly what will happen if you hope to convince folk like noah that independence is workable from day one. iScotland can't use the Euro for at least 2-3 years, it can't use sterling, so what exactly will it use? Sturgeon said a new currency supported by a central bank, which is fine. Will this be stable, pegged to sterling, or allowed to float and find its own value. What if it ends up worth only 50p or valued at £1.50, how is that going to work in practice. The SNP need to have answers to these questions or are doomed to failure for a second and final time.
    Two things Tainedice.. I'm not the voice of the SNP I'm just someone who supports Independence. And I'm not an Economist. What I do know is there is absolutely no reason an Independent Scotland could not have its own successful currency. I will leave the practicalities and finer points to the experts. What I do agree with is the Yes Campaign must have much more clearer and defined answers (as I said earlier we relied far to much on the opposition being fair and logical) So I'm looking forward a much more dynamic proposals re currency and financial matters. What I'm not going to do is fall into the trap of saying how every penny will be used blah blah. because I don't know, However I do know Scotland is a very wealthy country even without oil&gas we are resource rich.

    I'm not in the slightest bit sentimental about currency. It's only a tool. I really don't care what it's called. Or whose picture is on the notes and coins. But I do know an Independent Scotland would hold all the cards to make us a prosperous and successful Nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Two things Tainedice.. I'm not the voice of the SNP
    My bad. An easy mistake to make, though here's hoping the SNP can work through all the issues which torpedoed the last referendum and fat eck is kept well away.

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