Lbj, you have slightly extrapolated from what I said. The circumstances were that on a Stiff tour ID was heading to the stage and simply fell over. As I and a colleague went over to help him up a furious EC (who had clearly recently visited a state in South America) rushed up and accused us of attacking ID and then came out with the bollox I mentioned above. He also threatened to get his roadies to do us over. the guy is a complete rrsehole but most people think he's great. Which is why I dont give much of a f*ck for majority opinions.