Did you know Ross Barkley was (1/4) black?

[great_fire]

Watching Match of the Day yesterday and Ross Barkley isn't even tanned, in fact he's paler than most all-white people so making out Mackenzie is racist and this was a "hate crime" is bizarre and wrong.

Criticism of MacKenzie making disparging remarks about Liverpudlians on the eve of the Hillsborough anniversary is fair though and you would have thought he would have learned his lesson ages ago.

[monty_rhodes]

Watching Match of the Day yesterday and Ross Barkley isn't even tanned, in fact he's paler than most all-white people so making out Mackenzie is racist and this was a "hate crime" is bizarre and wrong.

Criticism of MacKenzie making disparging remarks about Liverpudlians on the eve of the Hillsborough anniversary is fair though and you would have thought he would have learned his lesson ages ago.

As I posted before I have no axe to grind against you as a poster on MM. I have no idea if KM is a racist but he seems undeniably to be an unpleasant loudmouthed bigot. The point about your post which riled me was the "revenge for Hillsborough" bit - a choice of words which I'm sure you regret. We can all make this kind of misjudgement and I don't hold it against you.

[John2]

Watching Match of the Day yesterday and Ross Barkley isn't even tanned, in fact he's paler than most all-white people so making out Mackenzie is racist and this was a "hate crime" is bizarre and wrong.

The idea that a hate crime or racism can only be perpetrated if a person's skin tone exceeds a certain threshold is bizarre and wrong, and doesn't reflect well on the intellect of the person expressing it.

[KerrAvon]

I've read this OP several times. I have nothing at all against the poster. But this post is appalling and wrong on so many levels I can't be rrsed to comment further. Shameful crap.

I agree with you, but only had to read the OP once.

[Ellis_D]

Even the new posters seem to work millmoor out pretty quickly!

[John2]

I certainly didn't.

You might not have realised, however you are not a journalist.

The first thing any journalist would do before writing such an article is find out all the information they can about the person. Simply reading his Wikipedia would have revealed he is of Nigerian ancestry and the chances KM would have known this when he wrote the article approach 100%.

[great_fire]

You might not have realised, however you are not a journalist.

The first thing any journalist would do before writing such an article is find out all the information they can about the person. Simply reading his Wikipedia would have revealed he is of Nigerian ancestry and the chances KM would have known this when he wrote the article approach 100%.

Was that always on Wikipedia though or was it added after the article? You don't know with Wikipedia.

[John2]

Was that always on Wikipedia though or was it added after the article? You don't know with Wikipedia.

"You don't know with Wikipedia"

You don't seem to know very much of anything at all. On the top right of every single Wikipedia page are tabs pertaining to the page you are viewing with the options: Read, Edit, View History.

Clicking on the latter you can view every single edit to the Wikipedia page ever, and view the Wikipedia page as it was historically at any point in time. Its incredibly easy.

Here is exactly how his Wikipedia page looked on 17th March:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...ldid=769789942

Here is another history from August 2015:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...ldid=675427952

It has long clearly stated he is of Nigerian ancestery.

That doesn't make KM's comments racist, even KM himself may not have conciously set out to be offensive. However the barest of competence would have had him in full posession of this information, and he should have had the brains to consider how his words could be interpreted. He's made this mess himself by being very unpleasant, and its sad people are so keen to defend him to thinly veil their own prejudices.

[great_fire]

A white man compared him to a gorilla and therefore he's a black victim of white racism but if Barkley had compared a 100% or 50% black player to a gorilla he'd be a "white racist" and black no longer.

Bit like how hispanic, mainly Amerindian-looking George Zimmerman became white when he killed Trayvon Martin.

[sawmiller]

A white man compared him to a gorilla and therefore he's a black victim of white racism but if Barkley had compared a 100% or 50% black player to a gorilla he'd be a "white racist" and black no longer.

Bit like how hispanic, mainly Amerindian-looking George Zimmerman became white when he killed Trayvon Martin.

or how blacks are OK if they win Olympic Gold medals...