Free Agents/Midfielders

[Romanis]

Depending on the roles, position or style of play, some players can go on playing if they maintain high fitness levels and avoid injuries.

This usually applies to defenders and goalkeepers and the creative midfielders. But for strikers and wingers, age ultimately slows them down. This will include wing backs and defensive midfielders.
Of course it depends on the team and style of play. Pirlo was mercurial at Milan, and yet when sold to Juventus, he was just as good, why? Because of their style of play which only required him to craft, not graft. The other midfielders relieved him of the need to harass, tackle or chase opponents.

[MadAmster]

Celtic is the only club where Kris Commons hasn't left at the end of his first multi year contract. Says a lot about his loyalty.

[Whiteram]

Commons? After a series of meetings, DCFC had agreed to all of his demands AND given him an extra year on top of what he had asked for. He still didn't sign. Then Celtic came in with a £300K bid. Do you say no, keep the player and let him go for nowt in the summer or do you take the cash and let him go as he obviously doesn't want to stay or he would have signed the contract that was on the table. Cracking player but too much of a sicknote everywhere he has been. derby bent over backwards for the lad and he simply wouldn't sign the deal.

You are absolutely right on the circumstances, not sure what Commons is bleating about after all he had a contract and could not be forced to move and had a contract offer on the table which he didn't sign.

[Rams4Justice]

Commons? After a series of meetings, DCFC had agreed to all of his demands AND given him an extra year on top of what he had asked for. He still didn't sign. Then Celtic came in with a £300K bid. Do you say no, keep the player and let him go for nowt in the summer or do you take the cash and let him go as he obviously doesn't want to stay or he would have signed the contract that was on the table. Cracking player but too much of a sicknote everywhere he has been. derby bent over backwards for the lad and he simply wouldn't sign the deal.

Actually Kris Commons wanted to sign a new contract at Derby but Derby didn't offer him what he wanted to stay so they flogged him on a cheap to Celtic for £300,000 because at the time Adam Appleby was tight we hardly forked out money financially and had a manager who was put in place to lower our financial mess that we was under when we was in the PL in 08.

If we had the big financial backing like we have now Kris would have definitely been given a new contract to sign and wage demands would have been met for one of our top players.

[Rams4Justice]

Celtic is the only club where Kris Commons hasn't left at the end of his first multi year contract. Says a lot about his loyalty.

If a player wants to stay at the club and you have earned a wage rise for the hard work that you have put into the club you deserve a wage rise but if the negotiations between player, agent & club are not met due to the club can't financially back that demand then your only option is to sell the player on to another club for a good price because he is one of your top players.

Why he was sold for £300,000 was outrageous and still is to this day should have been considerably more even if his contract was up for renewal and could go on a free, for one of your top players we should of at least got £3-4m for him.

At that time with our financial struggles the club was just happy to accept any money that came to the table.

[Rams4Justice]

Derby to look at the Free Agent market after the Keiftenbeld collapse.

So it begins......

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/spor...-agents-442930

[MadAmster]

1. My account of Commons being offered EVERYTHING he had asked for PLUS an extra year on top of his original demand comes straight from Nigel Clough in 2011 rather than Commons 6 years later. My account has been verified by at least one other poster in this thread. Commons simply didn't sign a contract offering everything he had asked for plus an extra year. In the end, it comes down to which of the 2 you believe. I side with Nigel. You side with Commons. Commons had, from October 2010, repeatedly said he wanted to sign the new contract. He was offered all he had asked for and more but still didn't sign it. Something he had done 3 years before when the Red Dogs agreed to all of his demands and put a contract on the table. He didn't sign that one either and came to us.

2. £3M to £4M for a sicknote with less than 6 months left on his contract? We will have to agree to differ on that too.

[Rams4Justice]

1. My account of Commons being offered EVERYTHING he had asked for PLUS an extra year on top of his original demand comes straight from Nigel Clough in 2011 rather than Commons 6 years later. My account has been verified by at least one other poster in this thread. Commons simply didn't sign a contract offering everything he had asked for plus an extra year. In the end, it comes down to which of the 2 you believe. I side with Nigel. You side with Commons. Commons had, from October 2010, repeatedly said he wanted to sign the new contract. He was offered all he had asked for and more but still didn't sign it. Something he had done 3 years before when the Red Dogs agreed to all of his demands and put a contract on the table. He didn't sign that one either and came to us.

2. £3M to £4M for a sicknote with less than 6 months left on his contract? We will have to agree to differ on that too.

The club offered Commons a deal that they could afford at the time but Commons wanted what Derby couldn't afford so they had to sell him on despite him wanting to stay and Clough was never good at negotiating deals so he just took deals which first came to the table and flogged him to Celtic for £300,000.

Clough wage packet was poor we could hardly sign top players for crying out loud we had to draw players from the SPL that's how bad it was and get mostly people out on loan, we played unattractive football that from my experience of that era was like watching Psycho and getting stabbed in the bath it was that bad to watch. The Clough era is an experience I never want to experience again it was the worst days as a Derby fan.

[MadAmster]

Like I said, we will have to agree to differ.

[Rams4Justice]

Like I said, we will have to agree to differ.

On the contrary....