how bad will our punishment be?

[pboromag]

They added: "It is self-evident that 'reasonable grounds' are just that.

"They do not mean that any criminal offence has in fact been committed.

"There may, at the end of the investigation, turn out to be innocent explanations for what happened."

The judges concluded: "We are satisfied that HMRC's case was a coherent one, and signified a belief that was reasonable, based on the material that was in HMRC's possession at the time."

A QC for HMRC said during the July hearing that because of the court orders preventing examination of the seized material it was not known if it "inculpates or exculpates" the club.

In their ruling the two judges said that "as matters currently stand", HMRC "is holding a large volume of information seized from NUFC and Mr Charnley, which information HMRC has not yet examined".

They continued orders preventing examination of the material "until further order", pending any appeal moves by Newcastle.

In a later statement, a spokesman for HMRC said: "HMRC is pleased that the court agreed these warrants were lawful and justified in this case, and rejected each of the five grounds for which the review was sought.

"Our investigation into suspected tax fraud continues."

The club said: "We are disappointed with this decision given the court's findings. We are considering all of our options with our advisers, including whether to pursue an appeal."


Read more at https://talksport.com/football/newca...0Xp6Kr3Zmd9.99

the words they continued court orders tells me im corect and indeed in the know

thank you

[ex_pat_magpie]

As I've said several times before Pboro, you know F'all about F'all.

In the know. Anyone who can read can claim that.

[ranat22]

They added: "It is self-evident that 'reasonable grounds' are just that.

"They do not mean that any criminal offence has in fact been committed.

"There may, at the end of the investigation, turn out to be innocent explanations for what happened."

The judges concluded: "We are satisfied that HMRC's case was a coherent one, and signified a belief that was reasonable, based on the material that was in HMRC's possession at the time."

A QC for HMRC said during the July hearing that because of the court orders preventing examination of the seized material it was not known if it "inculpates or exculpates" the club.

In their ruling the two judges said that "as matters currently stand", HMRC "is holding a large volume of information seized from NUFC and Mr Charnley, which information HMRC has not yet examined".

They continued orders preventing examination of the material "until further order", pending any appeal moves by Newcastle.

In a later statement, a spokesman for HMRC said: "HMRC is pleased that the court agreed these warrants were lawful and justified in this case, and rejected each of the five grounds for which the review was sought.

"Our investigation into suspected tax fraud continues."

The club said: "We are disappointed with this decision given the court's findings. We are considering all of our options with our advisers, including whether to pursue an appeal."


Read more at https://talksport.com/football/newca...0Xp6Kr3Zmd9.99

the words they continued court orders tells me im corect and indeed in the know

thank you

like you have been told wilf,nufc are considering an appeal,and if talksh1tes article is correct they are waiting to see what nufc do before releasing the documents to the HRMC.either way they are gonna get the documents and use them as evidence..like you were also told..........unless by some miricle ashley wins the appeal

[pboromag]

As I've said several times before Pboro, you know F'all about F'all.

In the know. Anyone who can read can claim that.

i didnt say i was in the know
i merely pointed out i can read and that the club dont even have to appeal the courts have said the evidence seized cant be used (SOMETHING YOU SAID WAS WRONG ,BUT YOU ARE WRONG SO I GUESS YOU KNOW LESS THAN WE THINK YOU DO )
which is my first statement that plastic pat said wouldnt be the case as the they have more power than the police

well not in this case they dont
so maybe plastic you know less than you think you do

[pboromag]

like you have been told wilf,nufc are considering an appeal,and if talksh1tes article is correct they are waiting to see what nufc do before releasing the documents to the HRMC.either way they are gonna get the documents and use them as evidence..like you were also told..........unless by some miricle ashley wins the appeal

well runnit
the club dont ave to consider an apeal the courts said it is unadmissable whilst nufc consider an appeal and he has been given no time limit

the hmrc will have to take te club to court to get them to decide wether they will or wont appeal

like i say i hope they win the appeal as i love it when people knock the tax man

just like northern rock did

and many many other people and institutes

im sure many on here have done cash jobs and adjusted their tax returns

he who throws stones and all that

[Curian]

This may or may not help in understanding the position that the club face. Though it seems self explanatory.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...use-tax-system



"HMRC are pleased with the way *Operation Loom is progressing, but a resolution to the inquiry could still be a year or so off."

[pboromag]

This may or may not help in understanding the position that the club face. Though it seems self explanatory.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...use-tax-system



"HMRC are pleased with the way *Operation Loom is progressing, but a resolution to the inquiry could still be a year or so off."

and the club can keep bunging in appeals

and as long as they do the evidence wont be accessed

so by the time they do stop appealing only then can the hmrc set about getting a case together

but the HMRC will probabaly by pas this because as plastic says they have more power than the police

[ex_pat_magpie]

i didnt say i was in the know
i merely pointed out i can read and that the club dont even have to appeal the courts have said the evidence seized cant be used (SOMETHING YOU SAID WAS WRONG ,BUT YOU ARE WRONG SO I GUESS YOU KNOW LESS THAN WE THINK YOU DO )
which is my first statement that plastic pat said wouldnt be the case as the they have more power than the police

well not in this case they dont
so maybe plastic you know less than you think you do

To quote your words from YOUR post 31 "the words they continued court orders tells me im corect and indeed in the know"

So you have just proved yourself to be a liar too. As if we all didn't know.

[ranat22]

well runnit
the club dont ave to consider an apeal the courts said it is unadmissable whilst nufc consider an appeal and he has been given no time limit

the hmrc will have to take te club to court to get them to decide wether they will or wont appeal

like i say i hope they win the appeal as i love it when people knock the tax man

just like northern rock did

and many many other people and institutes

im sure many on here have done cash jobs and adjusted their tax returns

he who throws stones and all that

you keep digging that hole deeper wilf lad

[ashingtoon62]

This may or may not help in understanding the position that the club face. Though it seems self explanatory.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...use-tax-system



"HMRC are pleased with the way *Operation Loom is progressing, but a resolution to the inquiry could still be a year or so off."

Bit naughty of the Guardian,using the word systemic..