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  1. #1
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    Mueller in the Clinton camp despite being a registered Republican?
    Appointed by Republican Presidents to all his previous posts.
    Yeah right.

    Incidentally James Comey was also a Republican.

    I guess everyone who disagrees with Trump is a Hillary loving Democrat.

    Trolol

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    Classic case on what I said earlier. 2 incidents happened which 1 should not be anti whilst the other was fair.

    1. Visit to Windsor.

    Much too much been made of so-called faux pas or slights to HM.
    She was kept waiting.
    Excuse me, did Trump drive himself there? If you wanna blame, blame the driver. Even that is probably unfair. It wasn't the Beast but. Range Rover. Different car maybe different style. And anyway the timing is controlled by the host isn't it? And since Trump is the guest, no harm in the Queen waiting for her guest not the other way round.

    Neither curtsied? (sp)

    Why should non Brita curtsey? Why should a Head of a different State have to curtsey or bow to the British Monarch?
    A handshake is perfectly acceptable.

    He walked in front of her. What rubbish. Both were walking together each gesturing to the other to go ahead. Trump eventually by the turn ended up in front. He stopped and waited. Non issue really.
    Anyway make some people don't understand protocol elsewhere. It's quite normal for the first to walk ahead in inspecting the GOH, since it's formed for his benefit not the host's.
    I've seen these numerous times in various countries. The Guest walks ahead to inspect the Guard.

    The whole exercise was a meaningless exercise to portray Trump in the worst light possible.

    And even his meeting, he said very complimentary things, did not reveal anything in detail except that HM said Need it was a very complex issue which is a fair comment for him to make without providing the telling details of their convo.

    2. Helsinki

    Here Trump made a series of disastrous remarks which the media has every right to assail him.

    Conclusion.

    When the media or opponents jab him for non-issues, they lose the initiative when real issues turn up.
    What would an ordinary voter leaning Republican think. Oh they attacked him for nothing and now doing it again. I can't really trust all these media reports and better stick to script and continue to believe him when he says all these are fake news, deep state etc.

    And that's the problem, when you attack him needlessly you are not convincing his voters to go against him.
    When Bush was President, the media held off personal attacks except for the humorous stuff he did, which even he accepted as fair.
    So when he made policy mistakes, they then when after him and got the message across.
    The result? 2008 was a shoo- in for a Democrat. McCain was not a bad choice for the Republicans but he was faced with an uphill battle trying to distance himself from whatever errors Bush made in the previous 8 years.

    This is a lesson for those who oppose Trump vehemently. Choose yoyr6 battles. Let him win a few meaningless ones, so when the real blunder occurs, you are seen as fair.

    They were presented with a Watergate style opportunity with the Russian probe. But most of that has been lost in translation, now a majority of Republicans think it's a witchunt.
    It's not gonna affect him unless Mueller can pin evidence and charges against Eric or Jared. Or unless there's a smoking gun which clearly shows Trump colluding or obstructing justice. I think it's safe to say that this now looks very unlikely.

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