O/T Frack me

[KerrAvon]

What has been the problem, Bramley? I ask as I have been considering having them installed on my house.

[gm_gm]

I was "conned" into Solar Panels (too many cowboys)
Currently with the Ombudsman

They're not as good as advertised
Only have a 25 year (decreasing from day 1) life

Understand they're not very environmentally friendly to manufacture

Fracking ?
TBH wouldn't want it in my back yard (hypocrite ?)

However we're surrounded by sea which creates tides and offshore winds that would turn turbines

Still think that, in years to come, the coal reserves will be used (where they are) to produce the steam to turn the turbines

This...

Also you don't own the panels as they are leased so when you sell you house it causes all sorts of issues as you need the providers consent

[sawmiller]

This...

Also you don't own the panels as they are leased so when you sell you house it causes all sorts of issues as you need the providers consent

You can own panels if you have capital and plan to stay long enough

[frogmiller]

What has been the problem, Bramley? I ask as I have been considering having them installed on my house.

If you can pay out up front then do so.

Make sure you get the warranty from the manufacturers of the parts. Don't rely on the company that installs them. Some parts are not covered for the length of time the system warranty is for.

[Brin]

What has been the problem, Bramley? I ask as I have been considering having them installed on my house.

KA, I too have considered having solar panels installed. What I see as a concern is the way they are attached through your roof tiles and attached to the roof trusses. What are the weight of these panels? Can it cause roof sag in say 20 years? That would be very costly if this occurred.

Do they drill through roof trusses or strap them to a truss?

All the hype I previously heard and still see and hear about creating your own electricity and slashing your electric bill by many many pounds, has yet to be proven because some folk I know have yet to see anything and they've had them panels installed for years.

When these panels break down and become not functional after years of use, will the Government, who subsidised their installation, provide some kind of compensation for their removal and cover any repair costs?

Yes it's great to go green for the planet's sake with solar panels but at what future cost to the average householder?

[Brin]

Just had a look into this. Apparently, just about every solar installation will involve giant screws being drilled through your rafters/trusses.

A giant screw that goes right through so what damage/weakness can this cause in future years



It's a no from me.

[millavanilla]

We shall go forward..
We shall invent and innovate..
Our intelligence shall be inherited..
By the ones who invented nothing..
Hence the demise of fish and chips..
And the irreversible rise of tikka...
Must admit though..i do like a nice madras...
Anyway we're a few hundred years away from all that yet..

[rolymiller]

We need to frack.
Makes sense to me.
Fk the future.

I take it you have no grand kids then...

[BramleyMiller58]

What has been the problem, Bramley? I ask as I have been considering having them installed on my house.

I always said to Mrs BM58 that as we are just off south facing then the roof was an opportunity to pay something back to the planet but didn't want it to cost me anything so when the figures they gave for "payback" suggested a net cost to me of £2:06 per month over the 10 year period of the loan (@ gm_gm I do own them) I thought go for it

What they didn't say was that the payback were calculated over the 25 year "life" of the panels not the loan period so actual costs are a lot more.

FIT payments are less than they documented & we found a minimal decrease in Electric bills and we've a 16 panel system


Was arguing with the installers (My Planet) who then went "bust" so onto the Ombudsman who is talking to the loan provider, who apparently have responsibility, they made their first offer which I've rejected


@ Brin - Yup they lift your tiles and screw into the roof trusses, they not supposed to go through the felting but, guess what !

[zouch]

Todays announcement by the IPCC suggest we have twelve years left to turn the tide. Here is an interesting webinar which reflects the scale of task in order to meet the Paris climate accord agreement
https://www.iema.net/event-reports/2...trump-despair/

it is still relevant today but the task just got harder.