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Thread: Not going to be a football chump anymore.

  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    The wrapper doesn't say and has never said "we WILL buy players in Window
    And that goes to the heart of this. Supporters picking over every word that Stewart says and then interpreting it in the way that they like.

    I think it should be apparent to everyone exactly what Rotherham United is currently about. It’s a club that is being run in a manner that allows it to run up losses only to a level that the owners are willing and able to sustain. In other words, we are living within the means of its ownership.

    I can understand why supporters would like things to be different and for vast sums to be spent to allow the club to compete in the top half of the Championship rather than the bottom. What I don’t understand is why – given the history of the club in the last twenty years or so – anyone would want the club to become financially unstable to allow that to happen. Is there something in the water at Rotherham that causes a loss of memory? Do you not remember points deductions, bucket collections and the waiting to see if the club would be wound up?

    Kempo asks if what we are getting is value for money. I would say that it undoubtedly is. Reasonably priced tickets to see Championship football in a modern ground with no fear of going bust and with at least a fighting chance of staying up.

    Nobody has to follow Rotherham if they don’t want to. If you want to follow a club where money to buy success is no object, Manchester is not so far away. Just remember that you will get cross there if you don’t win every week.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    Which bit is not true?
    You want TS to spend his money even though he's spent millions over the past 9/10 years
    I guess your one of those fans who says. He shouldn't have become a football club owner if he didn't want to spend his money...
    If he hadn't at least he would have saved you a few Bob..


    The only lie is the last sentence in your post
    The wrapper doesn't say and has never said "we WILL buy players in Window
    I think you are rewriting history because you can't give up your football addiction.

    You and I have been duped.....fair enough if you want to keep throwing money at an illusion that is your business.

    I don't for one minute expect Tony Stewart to splash millions of cash on players that would be just as deluded.

    What I do expect is that in one of the transfer windows, that we may be able to take a punt on an up and coming player.....it's staggering that we cannot find one.......in the whole world?

    I don't believe that there is not a player in Africa, Japan, Europe etc....who is not worth a risk....even if he is not championship standard we can improve them and sell them on.


    I am a big fan of Tony Stewart as a businessman.....as a media personality he is a disaster.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    Which bit is not true?
    The wrapper doesn't say and has never said "we WILL buy players in Window
    So you don't think that Tony Stewart's many interviews about transfers and investment are not meant to give the fans the impression that players are arriving soon?

    Don't be ridiculous.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    And that goes to the heart of this. Supporters picking over every word that Stewart says and then interpreting it in the way that they like.

    I think it should be apparent to everyone exactly what Rotherham United is currently about. It’s a club that is being run in a manner that allows it to run up losses only to a level that the owners are willing and able to sustain. In other words, we are living within the means of its ownership.

    I can understand why supporters would like things to be different and for vast sums to be spent to allow the club to compete in the top half of the Championship rather than the bottom. What I don’t understand is why – given the history of the club in the last twenty years or so – anyone would want the club to become financially unstable to allow that to happen. Is there something in the water at Rotherham that causes a loss of memory? Do you not remember points deductions, bucket collections and the waiting to see if the club would be wound up?

    Kempo asks if what we are getting is value for money. I would say that it undoubtedly is. Reasonably priced tickets to see Championship football in a modern ground with no fear of going bust and with at least a fighting chance of staying up.

    Nobody has to follow Rotherham if they don’t want to. If you want to follow a club where money to buy success is no object, Manchester is not so far away. Just remember that you will get cross there if you don’t win every week.
    Completely agree. *chokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    I think you are rewriting history because you can't give up your football addiction.

    You and I have been duped.....fair enough if you want to keep throwing money at an illusion that is your business.

    I don't for one minute expect Tony Stewart to splash millions of cash on players that would be just as deluded.

    What I do expect is that in one of the transfer windows, that we may be able to take a punt on an up and coming player.....it's staggering that we cannot find one.......in the whole world?

    I don't believe that there is not a player in Africa, Japan, Europe etc....who is not worth a risk....even if he is not championship standard we can improve them and sell them on.


    I am a big fan of Tony Stewart as a businessman.....as a media personality he is a disaster.
    With everything still pretty much in your own hands I agree that some short term investment was needed in the last window .

    The club may lose £6m as a consequence and surely from a business point of view that has to come in to play .

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    So you don't think that Tony Stewart's many interviews about transfers and investment are not meant to give the fans the impression that players are arriving soon?

    Don't be ridiculous.
    so your interpretation of what TS said makes me as being ridiculous? can you show me where TS has stated we will buy? can you list the players and amounts we offered/bid to get them in this window. can you show how much TS has spent this season so you can spend your few hundred quid to watch championship football?
    i will save you the trouble. you cant idiot b+stard

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    We have got a choice .

    Vote with your feet. Don't renew your season ticket.
    I've had a season ticket for 34 years and counting.
    I'm as annoyed as everyone about the lack of incoming over this window.
    However, in the last 7 seasons we've had 3 promotions and 4 seasons in the championship And even though this one may become a second relegation, this is still just about as good as its been in my lifetime and i would be looking forward to the league one challenge to see if are once again too good for the lower leagues. Why on earth would i throw the teddy out of the pram and stop going now ?

    If you want things to change, don't cancel the season ticket.. cancel the subscription to sky, bt and anyone else funding the money fueled obscenity that our game has become at the highest levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK_NY View Post

    If you want things to change, don't cancel the season ticket.. cancel the subscription to sky, bt and anyone else funding the money fueled obscenity that our game has become at the highest levels.
    That’s as silly as my name

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    so your interpretation of what TS said makes me as being ridiculous? can you show me where TS has stated we will buy? can you list the players and amounts we offered/bid to get them in this window. can you show how much TS has spent this season so you can spend your few hundred quid to watch championship football?
    i will save you the trouble. you cant idiot b+stard
    You have to be a mate of Tony's surely?

    My money has nothing to do with this. Incidentally i have spent thousands watching Rotherham over the years.

    I have no problem if Tony Stewart never invests another penny.

    What I can't tolerate any longer is he fact that he misleads us all with his interviews.

    Enjoy the rest of this miserable season.
    Last edited by the_idiotb_stardson; 02-02-2019 at 05:42 PM.

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    ...and yet, why am I convinced that IBS has never been a millers fan but just comes on here to stir things up IBS style at a time when Millers fans might be a bit disillusioned.

    Take no notice folks its a load of bull what he comes out with..spent thousands my ar se, he's a troll on a mission.

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