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    Quote Originally Posted by TipperaryBaggie View Post
    Personally 123, I think that your comment is rather insulting to Leicesterbaggie who has told you what he voted for. He does not need you to tell him what he voted for. An apology should be forthcoming. Myself, I voted to leave the EU in the full knowledge that it could be with or without a deal. I am sure that many members of this forum voted on the same basis.
    We're in a constitutional crisis right now because of this particular debate we're having. I don't doubt that you or LB voted to leave and that Leave won the referendum. I also don't doubt that you now consider your leave vote to be to leave with or without a deal, and that in all likelihood your position between the two shifted after the referendum towards No Deal.

    My point is that what was presented as Leaving the EU before the referendum is very different to what is presented today. All 17.4m people who voted to leave, didn't vote to leave without a deal. The most recent votes we've had on this prove that there is no mandate for No deal. A no deal does not have the support of Parliament, which is sovereign in our constitution.

    So to get one through, we are now in a position where we are shutting down the fundamental part of our democratic constitution. And my point of view is that if you support that and you want democracy, then your reasoning is completely flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Yes, to leave with a deal.

    I don't know why you are getting angry at me and my fellow 'remoaners'...

    You really should be a bit more angry with the people who conned you into thinking this would be a smooth sailing process that would be easy to implement and make us better off.
    My voting paper said this

    Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?
    with the responses to the question to be (to be marked with a single (X)):

    Remain a member of the European Union

    Leave the European Union

    We are angry with you because you keep banging on about a non existent Leave With a Deal option. I wasn't conned by remaining LIARS who told me we would have to have an emergency budget within days of the vote like I believe millions of others were.

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    God save the Queen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    We're in a constitutional crisis right now because of this particular debate we're having. I don't doubt that you or LB voted to leave and that Leave won the referendum. I also don't doubt that you now consider your leave vote to be to leave with or without a deal, and that in all likelihood your position between the two shifted after the referendum towards No Deal.

    My point is that what was presented as Leaving the EU before the referendum is very different to what is presented today. All 17.4m people who voted to leave, didn't vote to leave without a deal. The most recent votes we've had on this prove that there is no mandate for No deal. A no deal does not have the support of Parliament, which is sovereign in our constitution.

    So to get one through, we are now in a position where we are shutting down the fundamental part of our democratic constitution. And my point of view is that if you support that and you want democracy, then your reasoning is completely flawed.
    Please do not insult my intelligence by telling me what I voted for in the referendum. I take exception to people who do that. I told you honestly what I voted for and I had hoped that you would understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipperaryBaggie View Post
    Please do not insult my intelligence by telling me what I voted for in the referendum. I take exception to people who do that. I told you honestly what I voted for and I had hoped that you would understand that.

    Respect to the Queen! Disrespect to losers!!!

    Would the Queen honestly want to see Corbyn - the f uckin Corgis would be more of a priority FFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipperaryBaggie View Post
    Please do not insult my intelligence by telling me what I voted for in the referendum. I take exception to people who do that. I told you honestly what I voted for and I had hoped that you would understand that.
    Eh? I just said I don't doubt you consider your vote to be a vote to leave without a deal.

    Did you vote for something else then....?

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    Sorry to correct you 123 but your post said 'NOW consider your leave vote to be leave with or without a deal'. I thought that I explained in plain English that my thoughts on why I voted has not changed since the referendum. Please get your facts right next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Respect to the Queen! Disrespect to losers!!!

    Would the Queen honestly want to see Corbyn - the f uckin Corgis would be more of a priority FFS
    to true al,he’s a trot along with commie supermac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipperaryBaggie View Post
    Sorry to correct you 123 but your post said 'NOW consider your leave vote to be leave with or without a deal'. I thought that I explained in plain English that my thoughts on why I voted has not changed since the referendum. Please get your facts right next time.
    The simple facts are these. The Leave camp campaigned to leave with a deal. The legislation before the ref was to leave with a deal. All of the debate beforehand was to leave with a deal.

    Leaving without a deal wasn't on the ballot paper.

    But even if it was, it has been rejected in our most recent two elections.

    No Deal is completely undemocratic. And would clearly be thrown out in Parliament if Johnson didn't prorogue it.

    I have no idea what victory it is you think you've won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    The simple facts are these. The Leave camp campaigned to leave with a deal. The legislation before the ref was to leave with a deal. All of the debate beforehand was to leave with a deal.

    Leaving without a deal wasn't on the ballot paper.

    But even if it was, it has been rejected in our most recent two elections.

    No Deal is completely undemocratic. And would clearly be thrown out in Parliament if Johnson didn't prorogue it.

    I have no idea what victory it is you think you've won.

    You still coming out with s hite!

    Bye

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