O/T - general election 2019

[ragingpup]

True there’s other issues other than brexit but ever since the last election the only argument labours been banging the drum on since then is preventing brexit and like iv said before until brexit is sorted other issues will take a back seat. I voted labour last time because I think they had some great ideas and respected the Eu referendum, but to be honest I’m not sure I can trust them to do what they say on other issues when they can’t do what they said on brexit. Does that make any sense?

Haven't the other parties been banging the brexit drum with equal fervor though Silly? It is by far the most prominent issue affecting everyone's live in the upcoming years. I think labour have been supportive of leaving the EU and respecting the vote, but the problem is that their preferred method of leaving the EU is quite different to other parties, and the other parties are quite different to Labour's. That's why it's all so ****ed and is most likely to be despite a GE, simply because I can't see an election, where people revert to voting for traditional issues as well as Brexit, returning anything other than a minority government and each of the parties simply taking up the arguments that they had before the election. Unfortunately. But hey, let's give it a go.

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

True there’s other issues other than brexit but ever since the last election the only argument labours been banging the drum on since then is preventing brexit and like iv said before until brexit is sorted other issues will take a back seat. I voted labour last time because I think they had some great ideas and respected the Eu referendum, but to be honest I’m not sure I can trust them to do what they say on other issues when they can’t do what they said on brexit. Does that make any sense?

Yes it makes sense.
I come from a different era to you, I go back to Harold Wilson.
If Labour want to become electable they need to move back to centre, they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of communities rich or poor.
As far as trust is concerned I wouldn’t trust any of today’s Politicians.
The Tories are good at bending the truth when it suits.

Satchi and Satchi anyone ?

[MillerBill]

Yes it makes sense.
I come from a different era to you, I go back to Harold Wilson.
If Labour want to become electable they need to move back to centre, they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of communities rich or poor.
As far as trust is concerned I wouldn’t trust any of today’s Politicians.
The Tories are good at bending the truth when it suits.

Satchi and Satchi anyone ?

Labour are pretty good at bending the truth.Promising students' fees would be abolished and after the election admitted they could not deliver that, after they had captured the youngster's votes which was disgaceful.The fact they were conning students and at the same time telling leavers that they would honour the referendum just to pinch votes was not very honest.If only we could get politicians to sit in a lie detetector chair as they spout their promiises.

[millertop]

Any ****ing point in voting? Majority have been ignored when voting in brexit

I would never vote Corbyn

[gm_gm]

Any ****ing point in voting? Majority have been ignored when voting in brexit

I would never vote Corbyn

That sentiment applies to all grown ups

[the_idiotb_stardson]

It's the stupidity of the Labour party that gets me. As a Labour member I was told, back in the day, about the old adage "divide and rule" which the Tories use as their main ideology. With this current Labour Party the Tories don't need to divide and rule because the Labour party do it to themselves. It used to be so simple, rich and poor, now Labour are splintering their support into various micro-identities.

These micro-issues when I was in the Labour Party would have been dismissed as petty bourgeois concerns. This lot lap it up. Labour don't deserve to win power. 90 % of the party are thing as pig sh it.

[Silly-miller]

Yes it makes sense.
I come from a different era to you, I go back to Harold Wilson.
If Labour want to become electable they need to move back to centre, they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of communities rich or poor.
As far as trust is concerned I wouldn’t trust any of today’s Politicians.
The Tories are good at bending the truth when it suits.

Satchi and Satchi anyone ?

If only we had a Harold Wilson today

Oh I agree 100% all politicians are a bunch of lying 🤥 sacks of 💩

Brexit is like a thorn in labours foot that they won’t take out it will stop them winning any race until it’s taken out. Labour and Tory’s never agree on anything and I can see a lot of reverse phycology being used against labour because of this. They have been playing to Tory’s tune since Tory’s got back in

[rolymiller]

I'm hoping it is gonna be a freezing cold icy miserable day so that the old biddies cant get out to vote tory. You know the ones who vote anyone in in a blue rosette and a false clean cut image. The racists and greedy will be generally voting farage and Boris hopefully splitting the vote.

Before anyone says I am gonna vote boris/ farage and i'm not greedy/ racist maybe you are not but you will be voting along side those who are.

[Silly-miller]

Haven't the other parties been banging the brexit drum with equal fervor though Silly? It is by far the most prominent issue affecting everyone's live in the upcoming years. I think labour have been supportive of leaving the EU and respecting the vote, but the problem is that their preferred method of leaving the EU is quite different to other parties, and the other parties are quite different to Labour's. That's why it's all so ****ed and is most likely to be despite a GE, simply because I can't see an election, where people revert to voting for traditional issues as well as Brexit, returning anything other than a minority government and each of the parties simply taking up the arguments that they had before the election. Unfortunately. But hey, let's give it a go.

True all party’s are banging brexit drum and you would expect it from Tory’s, but you would expect labour to keep fighting things like pensions tv licence P.I.P universal credit in parliament, maybe it’s just my opinion but I think the only pensions labour give a crap about now is their own EU pension.

Seriously what would be wrong in labour doing a deal with Tory’s to vote on brexit in exchange for benefit reforms lower pension age and a higher minimum wage or something else? It would give public more confidence in them as being the reasonable party.

[Brin]

I never thought I would see the day when I personally, for the first time in my life, would not be voting Labour.

This is about Brexit but for me the way I have seen my town disintegrate into a ghost town awash with immigrants, yes I'm saying immigrants, and run by a Council who simply do not care. Don't get me started on the CSE that has brought shame to the town whilst those in charge knew what was happening and could have dealt with it earlier. I don't get why the folk of Rotherham would want labour to be in charge of our town the next time the elections are up to vote on.

Corbyn spouts crap and he is awash with false promises and statements of what Labour intend to do if elected. He hasn't even explained how Labour would fund all they have said will take place. Also a man who wants to remove our nuclear deterrent and wave an olive branch instead.

No enough is enough and going forward, Labour have lost my vote both as a party and more so locally come the next elections.
They have not respected a democratic vote to leave and that was the people's right to vote and leave the European Union. Given the chance they would quash the vote and remain totally disregarding a democratic vote that won!

Politicians, they're all in it for themselves with little regard for who voted them in. They don't listen they don't care. There is only one party for now, who are looking to get us out of the European Union and they are getting my vote.