O/T Boris moved to intensive care

[rolymiller]

You are a wag flour

To be fair to the tories i don't think they are anymore to blame for this problem than any other nations govts in terms of being complacent about it happening in the first place. I would argue however as i always have done that the neglected state of the NHS over the last few years irrespective of all this has not helped us to be able to cope with it.

Whether the govt is to blame or not, our present govt seriously needs to ensure this doesn't happen again. The next bug that comes along might not give us a second chance.

[millertop]

No not at all. Very level minded people millertop. It could be argued the comments were a bit tongue in cheek from the people who said them but it has obviously gone through a lot of people's minds.

There is nothing i have put on here that aint reasonable. I've said myself that I believe Boris is genuinely unwell and I have said I wish him no harm. (His condition is stable by the way now)

If you think Boris has some sort of special place in all this then I think it is you who is the one who has problems...he is just one of thousands of people being treated for this as I type his life is no more precious or less precious than theirs. By the govt's admission he is getting the best doctors as well, I assume that applies to everyone else out there...

You will notice in previous posts that I’m not not saying they haven’t made mistakes and by hey I means not only the prime minister but the people who are guiding/advice it him but I try to be level headed about it instead of putting people down every chance you get in a situation where we all need to try and beat this virus.

I suppose some can’t help themselves though and it’s clearly pointless in trying to get that across

It doesn’t matter which leader it is, mistakes will always be there

Like I’ve also previously said before ‘ go to number 10 if you think you can do better’

[LincsMiller]

i suspect some people are just upset that they didn't get what this country really really needs in times of crisis....free broadband for the many not the few

lol 😂

[rolymiller]

You will notice in previous posts that I’m not not saying they haven’t made mistakes and by hey I means not only the prime minister but the people who are guiding/advice it him but I try to be level headed about it instead of putting people down every chance you get in a situation where we all need to try and beat this virus.

I suppose some can’t help themselves though and it’s clearly pointless in trying to get that across

It doesn’t matter which leader it is, mistakes will always be there

Like I’ve also previously said before ‘ go to number 10 if you think you can do better’

I have agreed with a lot of the govts policies on this Millertop if you have read some of my previous posts so I aint having a go in that respect. I think the govt should have acted quicker but my main argument is that we need to ensure this doesn't happen again. We need to listen to sound advice and act on it instead of ignoring it. That applies to ALL world govts.

The problem is we don't see beyond our borders as a lot of nations don't. The corona virus is a world problem which doesn't respect borders. This we "will look after our own nation and feck everyone else " does not work because some problems need a global response. It is exactly the same and even more so with warnings about global warming. Its no good acting after events because one day it will be too chuffin late to act. We can put a positive or negative spin on things but actions matter in the end...

Is that not a reasonable thing to say? Do you not think we need to learn some lessons from all this? It's not really a case of blame it is to do with making sure we do summat about it to stop it happening again. And yes, not only govts but everybody on Earth, as now, will have a big part to play and yes, as we have seen with this disease, make some serious sacrifices.

This is the future get used to it...

[great_fire]

You are a wag flour

To be fair to the tories i don't think they are anymore to blame for this problem than any other nations govts in terms of being complacent about it happening in the first place. I would argue however as i always have done that the neglected state of the NHS over the last few years irrespective of all this has not helped us to be able to cope with it.

Yes but you're lying when you say it's been neglected, spending has doubled in the last 20 years, the only time spending went down in recent years was after the financial crash in 2008 and Labour were in power then.

[caytonmiller]

I have agreed with a lot of the govts policies on this Millertop if you have read some of my previous posts so I aint having a go in that respect. I think the govt should have acted quicker but my main argument is that we need to ensure this doesn't happen again. We need to listen to sound advice and act on it instead of ignoring it. That applies to ALL world govts.

The problem is we don't see beyond our borders as a lot of nations don't. The corona virus is a world problem which doesn't respect borders. This we "will look after our own nation and feck everyone else " does not work because some problems need a global response. It is exactly the same and even more so with warnings about global warming. Its no good acting after events because one day it will be too chuffin late to act. We can put a positive or negative spin on things but actions matter in the end...

Is that not a reasonable thing to say? Do you not think we need to learn some lessons from all this? It's not really a case of blame it is to do with making sure we do summat about it to stop it happening again. And yes, not only govts but everybody on Earth, as now, will have a big part to play and yes, as we have seen with this disease, make some serious sacrifices.

This is the future get used to it...

Your refering back to type Roly. You're first sentence is contradictory. You say the government should have acted quicker then go onto say they need to listen and act on the sound advise.
The medical experts and science experts have been giving the the government the same advice you are questioning...
Am I right in thinking you think the experts are doing a good job but the government are not?

[caytonmiller]

Yes but you're lying when you say it's been neglected, spending has doubled in the last 20 years, the only time spending went down in recent years was after the financial crash in 2008 and Labour were in power then.

That's not kind m8. It doesn't matter how many truths you post so will never change there agenda (or is it gender).

[flourbasher]

Crash. Can I suggest you scroll down and ignore this post.

I see Labour has not only appointed Angela Raynor into the cabinet but now they've given Rebecca Long Bailey a key role.
Toxic character s from the last election.
Two steps forward and a good move with KS and now ten steps back with those two.
I'm not Labour bashing here. I'll vote for them if I think it's appropriate to do so but I can't see that happening with those two involved.
Crazy decisions

[great_fire]

That's not kind m8. It doesn't matter how many truths you post so will never change there agenda (or is it gender).

It's pretty much the only arrow Labour have in their quiver.

[rolymiller]

That's not kind m8. It doesn't matter how many truths you post so will never change there agenda (or is it gender).

You are deluded Cayton. You trusting the views of the most extremely right wing person on here. Very naive and a bit surprised. Try this.


You cant just chuck up a graph with no explanation

Lots of detail on this give it a read..

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...n-with-the-nhs