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    Some very strange loan deals being done at the moment.

    Intrigued by the 12 month loan of Scot Carson from Derby to Manchester City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarmbaggie View Post
    Some very strange loan deals being done at the moment.

    Intrigued by the 12 month loan of Scot Carson from Derby to Manchester City.

    Even Scott Carson ( who was s hite ) is better than Johnstone!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Even Scott Carson ( who was s hite ) is better than Johnstone!!
    You may or may not be right on that, who knows.

    However, what it does show for me is even a club as rich and successful as City get only get someone like Carson as cover for their goalkeeping positions.

    Just shows how difficult it will be to attract the quality we would all like to bring more depth to the squad, for a club with our lesser financial clout and standing with PL quality players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarmbaggie View Post
    You may or may not be right on that, who knows.

    However, what it does show for me is even a club as rich and successful as City get only get someone like Carson as cover for their goalkeeping positions.

    Just shows how difficult it will be to attract the quality we would all like to bring more depth to the squad, for a club with our lesser financial clout and standing with PL quality players.

    Very true but you still know the teams who will be in the top six - mostly likely mid table - and most likely fighting relegation. On this basis - we have a much worse squad than when promoted plus we also have to play catch up to match the quality of those fighting relegation ie Brighton etc. Do you feel we could match Brighton, West Ham and Villa now in the Premier League plus Fulham and Leeds who are spending? That's the question. I don't, with a much worse squad ( at the moment ) than the one promoted. Lets hope at least six quality players come in.

    Tick tock tick tock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarmbaggie View Post
    ....However, what it does show for me is even a club as rich and successful as City get only get someone like Carson as cover for their goalkeeping positions.....
    Scott Carson may or may not get the odd appearance in the League Cup but his primary role is not to provide cover as such. He's there to pad out the home grown quota within the squad. Carson's signing shows us several things.

    1. Rich and successful clubs like Manchester City can afford to circumvent the rules.

    2. Despite what's currently happening Covid wise there's still a disgusting amount of money swilling around the trough within the upper echelons of the game.

    3. Scott's perfectly happy to train, sit on the bench and top up his pension.

    I'd love to see the look of startled surprise on his face if City's number one got injured and he had to come off the bench in a high profile game.

    Gardiola's facial expressions on the realisation that he was having to rely on Scott Carson would be even funnier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Very true but you still know the teams who will be in the top six - mostly likely mid table - and most likely fighting relegation. On this basis - we have a much worse squad than when promoted plus we also have to play catch up to match the quality of those fighting relegation ie Brighton etc. Do you feel we could match Brighton, West Ham and Villa now in the Premier League plus Fulham and Leeds who are spending? That's the question. I don't, with a much worse squad ( at the moment ) than the one promoted. Lets hope at least six quality players come in.

    Tick tock tick tock!
    Anyone reading some of these posts would get the impression all around us are spending £10's of millions whilst we fiddle as our hopes burn. That is simply not true.

    Almost without exception clubs (notably Leeds) aren't spending either.If you discount players already on loan that teams have signed as we have with Pereira then of the teams mentioned

    Brighton have spent £1.5m.

    Fulham £2m.

    West Ham and Villa £0.

    Notable others that have spent

    Palace only Ferguson. Probably get Eze but lose Zaha. An upgrade? Anyone know*when we are due to get the money from Palace?

    Sheff Utd £18m on Ramsdale but lost Henderson. An upgrade?

    Saints £10m on a centre back but lost a tried and tested for £14m to Spurs. An upgrade?

    Teams spending nothing (or next to it.) Some of them have lost 'stars.'
    Villa
    Burnley
    Everton
    Leicester
    Man U!
    Newcastle
    West Ham
    Wolves

    We of course have more catching up to do and and I am concerned. If our budget is only £20m (who knows what it actually is) then I am very concerned. If it's more why broadcast it?

    The team that started v QPR had 8 players who had not featured previously. The recruitment team whoever you want to applaud/blame did a good enough job almost starting from scratch to get us promoted. Until proven wrong I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt they can do a good enough job now. Perhaps there will be a fire sale come October and we will take advantage. 2 or perhaps 3 signings and a similar number of loans (as we did last season) then things will look very different.*

    So concerned. Yes

    Panicked. No.

    COYB
    Last edited by 9goals2hattricks3pen; 27-08-2020 at 11:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9goals2hattricks3pen View Post
    Anyone reading some of these posts would get the impression all around us are spending £10's of millions whilst we fiddle as our hopes burn. That is simply not true.

    Almost without exception clubs (notably Leeds) aren't spending either.If you discount players already on loan that teams have signed as we have with Pereira then of the teams mentioned

    Brighton have spent £1.5m.

    Fulham £2m.

    West Ham and Villa £0.

    Notable others that have spent

    Palace only Ferguson. Probably get Eze but lose Zaha. An upgrade? Anyone know*when we are due to get the money from Palace?

    Sheff Utd £18m on Ramsdale but lost Henderson. An upgrade?

    Saints £10m on a centre back but lost a tried and tested for £14m to Spurs. An upgrade?

    Teams spending nothing (or next to it.) Some of them have lost 'stars.'
    Villa
    Burnley
    Everton
    Leicester
    Man U!
    Newcastle
    West Ham
    Wolves

    We of course have more catching up to do and and I am concerned. If our budget is only £20m (who knows what it actually is) then I am very concerned. If it's more why broadcast it?

    The team that started v QPR had 8 players who had not featured previously. The recruitment team whoever you want to applaud/blame did a good enough job almost starting from scratch to get us promoted. Until proven wrong I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt they can do a good enough job now. Perhaps there will be a fire sale come October and we will take advantage. 2 or perhaps 3 signings and a similar number of loans (as we did last season) then things will look very different.*

    So concerned. Yes

    Panicked. No.

    COYB

    Respect your view and had our squad been the same strength as the one promoted - perhaps less panic. Diangana and Krov were two of our best players from three so there’s the concern! Our strikers were not good enough in the championship so here’s another big concern. Most would agree had Gayle been there we would have been promoted with games to spare!

    We don’t want to be playing catch up come the end of October that’s for sure. I am confident Bilic with his connections will attract and identify players who will want to come if the financials are right! Such a shame Ashworth is not around as he was a class act and think Dowling is a muppet in comparison.

    I have faith in Bilic and we need him more than he needs us unlike the previous muppets who managed us!

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    The bit about catch up at the end of October is my major concern. If we are 6 points adrift by then even the proposed signing of Messi to play along side Kanu won't be enough to save us.

    ATM based on what I have written right now I think most teams would start weaker than they ended just not weak enough for us.
    Last edited by 9goals2hattricks3pen; 27-08-2020 at 12:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9goals2hattricks3pen View Post
    The bit about catch up at the end of October is my major concern. If we are 6 points adrift by then even the proposed signing of Messi to play along side Kanu won't be enough to save us.

    ATM based on what I have written right now I think most teams would start weaker than they ended just not weak enough for us.


    Exactly - my point! Kanu is a big f uckin Messi - apart from holding the ball up!

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