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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    The EU referendum in June 2016 was decided by the vote of the whole of the UK.
    There were not separate votes in Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar.
    Using the SNP mentality the electorate of Gibraltar who voted by a huge majority for the UK to remain in the EU, the residents of Gibraltar should be able to remain in the EU. That would have been an extremely bad move for Gibraltar as the UK forces left Gibraltar and left the residents of Gibraltar to the mercy of Spain who have had their eyes set on acquiring Gibraltar for many years.
    I know.

    I was trying to point out every man, woman, inbetweeners and their dug cuda voted stay.....it didnt matter.....it wasn't a Scottish vote.....it was UK.......and the people had their say.😁

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    Now to get back on the topic.
    This afternoon I was doing my weekly shop in Bowmore Islay when I spotted a couple of fervent Rangers supporters one of whom I personally know is a Unionist.
    I said to them that the latest of set of Gers results were just about as bad as when Craig Whyte was in charge at Ibrox.
    They were not impressed to say the least.
    One Rangers supporter left leaving me with the Unionist supporter who said to me. Thank goodness that Scotland is still part of the UK as an independent Scotland would not have had any money to pay for the furlough scheme.
    I replied that Nicola and her new finance secretary Kate Forbes think that they could borrow £500 billion no doubt on the ‘never never’ to spend their way out of trouble. No responsible financial organisation would lend them that amount of money with ‘no strings attached’.
    The IMF might lend that amount of money but they would insist that an independent Scotland would have to greatly reduce their public spending decficit and stop spending money like there is no tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    The people of Scotland consistently vote contrary to the people of England / Wales. We often have governments foisted upon us that we don't want (Tories) who dictate their policies, the policies voted for by the English electorate, to us. If you have policies forced upon you by an unelected government how else can you define it?

    We have no say in running the 'union' but they gave us a sterile assembly to placate us so I suppose that's something.
    Nicola Sturgeon is currently running Scotland as a dictator.
    As soon as the newspapers discover any news about her that does not fit with her own agenda Nicola tales out an interdict at the Court of Session which she did in February 2017 to prevent the newspapers and the media throughout the UK publishing the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    The people of Scotland consistently vote contrary to the people of England / Wales. We often have governments foisted upon us that we don't want (Tories) who dictate their policies, the policies voted for by the English electorate, to us. If you have policies forced upon you by an unelected government how else can you define it?

    We have no say in running the 'union' but they gave us a sterile assembly to placate us so I suppose that's something.
    I think that there are people in Scotland, who don't want independence. The last time there was a specific vote on this matter the decision, for a generation, was to stick with the Union.
    I don't think there are many policies forced on us. There is a block grant and it seems to me that the politicians in Holyrood decide how to spend it. Free prescriptions, free bus passes, free university education, no road bridge tolls, don't see England doing anything to stop these policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Now to get back on the topic.
    This afternoon I was doing my weekly shop in Bowmore Islay when I spotted a couple of fervent Rangers supporters one of whom I personally know is a Unionist.
    I said to them that the latest of set of Gers results were just about as bad as when Craig Whyte was in charge at Ibrox.
    They were not impressed to say the least.
    One Rangers supporter left leaving me with the Unionist supporter who said to me. Thank goodness that Scotland is still part of the UK as an independent Scotland would not have had any money to pay for the furlough scheme.
    I replied that Nicola and her new finance secretary Kate Forbes think that they could borrow £500 billion no doubt on the ‘never never’ to spend their way out of trouble. No responsible financial organisation would lend them that amount of money with ‘no strings attached’.
    The IMF might lend that amount of money but they would insist that an independent Scotland would have to greatly reduce their public spending decficit and stop spending money like there is no tomorrow.
    Interesting.

    I had you Doon as a monthly shop man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I think that there are people in Scotland, who don't want independence. The last time there was a specific vote on this matter the decision, for a generation, was to stick with the Union.
    I don't think there are many policies forced on us. There is a block grant and it seems to me that the politicians in Holyrood decide how to spend it. Free prescriptions, free bus passes, free university education, no road bridge tolls, don't see England doing anything to stop these policies.
    Lol.......independence will stop the "free" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Do you mean the UK that many of us voted to no longer be part of? The UK that Scotland originally became part of without a democratic vote but solely on the votes of noblemen who suddenly gained cash and lands in Yorkshire. That UK?
    Yes, the one the majority of Scots voted to remain part of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    The people of Scotland consistently vote contrary to the people of England / Wales. We often have governments foisted upon us that we don't want (Tories) who dictate their policies, the policies voted for by the English electorate, to us. If you have policies forced upon you by an unelected government how else can you define it?

    We have no say in running the 'union' but they gave us a sterile assembly to placate us so I suppose that's something.
    What health policies do they dictate to us?

    Which education policies do they dictate to us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Interesting.

    I had you Doon as a monthly shop man.
    It is impossible to do a monthly shop in the Co-op in Bowmore as it is not big enough.
    The shelves would be stripped bare which is what happens if bad weather is forecast and no ferries sailing.
    Gone are the days when people of Islay salt their beef in the Autumn to last them through the long winter months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Do you mean the UK that many of us voted to no longer be part of? The UK that Scotland originally became part of without a democratic vote but solely on the votes of noblemen who suddenly gained cash and lands in Yorkshire. That UK?
    Democracy is going with the majority right? The majority of people who voted in the Indy Ref wanted to remain part of the UK. It wasn't that long ago.

    Until there is another referendum, and there surely will be at some point despite it being a so called once in a generation vote, i'm afraid Scotland chose to remain part of the Union.

    Dress it up any old way, but that is the fact.

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