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[ozleeds]

European nations are closing schools, cancelling operations and enlisting legions of student medics as overwhelmed authorities face the nightmare scenario of a COVID-19 resurgence at the onset of winter.

With new cases hitting about 100,000 a day, Europe has by a wide margin overtaken the United States, where more than 51,000 COVID-19 infections are reported on average every day.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Hard to compare rates in Europe and USA in isolation Oz - EU has three times the population.

The key stat is not simply infection but the consequences of infection - a lot of those getting it in Europe are younger and a symptomatic.

The worry is when it increases in the elderly as that is when it becomes more severe and death rates significantly rise.

Scenes from Liverpool last night go some way to explaining surges in parts of the UK.

There are parts of the UK - Cornwall for example where infection rates are low and falling.

Japan and Singapore should be subject to more scrutiny as to whether there are lessons to be learnt.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Countries who seem to be faring better seem to have barred inbound overseas travel other then for their own nationals and essential travel for others.

I have a feeling there was over confidence that this had been cracked during the summer and that vaccines would be coming out around now which was probably never realistic.

It is also clear several mutations have made the virus more contagious but thank fully so far not more virulent.

The ability of politicos and the media to grapple with prolonged complex problems is being exposed by this.

[WTF11]

European nations are closing schools, cancelling operations and enlisting legions of student medics as overwhelmed authorities face the nightmare scenario of a COVID-19 resurgence at the onset of winter.

With new cases hitting about 100,000 a day, Europe has by a wide margin overtaken the United States, where more than 51,000 COVID-19 infections are reported on average every day.

And where does all that come from Oz? What nation is closing schools (nowhere in the UK (yet, insanity makes it eminently possible)? No operations are being cancelled (again, yet), in fact the NHS has mounted an advertising campaign to make it clear that the NHS is "open for business"

Like I said earlier, less meedja drivel, more digging for facts.

[WTF11]

Oh, and student medics in the UK are all banged up student halls and prevented from going anywhere!

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Like I said earlier, less meedja drivel, more digging for facts.

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[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Empty vessels make the most noise and far to many people in the media making an awful lot of noise and very little sense.

Sadly the politicos aren’t much better. The Mayor of London who has been largely invisible is now wanting to lockdown London when most boroughs are thankfully trending at below and sometimes well below 100 cases per 100k.

Labour seem to hVe gone bonkers too shut the country down for 3 weeks just when the unemployment figures are going the wrong way.

The supermarkets were open and busy throughout and there is no evidence of issues as they put in place proper simple steps surely there is a lesson in that. Have clear reasoned steps and make sure people follow them.

If I had a nose bleed I could stop it by chopping off my head - not advisable though as it would create a bigger issue - seems an apt analogy for these times.

[ozleeds]

And where does all that come from Oz? What nation is closing schools (nowhere in the UK (yet, insanity makes it eminently possible)? No operations are being cancelled (again, yet), in fact the NHS has mounted an advertising campaign to make it clear that the NHS is "open for business"

Like I said earlier, less meedja drivel, more digging for facts.

Well, Europe is not the UK it's a lot of other countries as well. I can just imagine now that the hard winter is coming how you guys are going to fair over there. And no amount of hard data or true facts will ever change people's perception of this virus.
Here in the town, I live in we all are going by our normal daily lives we are free to walk the streets go shopping visit friends all because we are doing the right things but like the other towns, it will only take one arsehole to set us back.

[whitestomper45]

My tuppence, have lost 4 friends to it, 2 of them brothers who went to Cheltenham races as a birthday outing.

WTF if it mutates hopefully be like it's cousin SARS that evolved and disappeared.

Stay safe as long as you can, a year or so, it's not as bad as living through a World War

[WTF11]

Well, Europe is not the UK it's a lot of other countries as well. I can just imagine now that the hard winter is coming how you guys are going to fair over there. And no amount of hard data or true facts will ever change people's perception of this virus.
Here in the town, I live in we all are going by our normal daily lives we are free to walk the streets go shopping visit friends all because we are doing the right things but like the other towns, it will only take one arsehole to set us back.

So, in answer to my question as to where your assertions came from, the kind of politicians answer telling absolutely nothing. Pan, kettle, black.