If only sturgeon Johnson swinney and hancock

[islaydarkblue]

Why does someone need to carry the can for what seems on the face of it to be sensible advice? If you're testing all patients on admission and are testing staff regularly why test all patients every four days? For me stop regular testing of inpatients and divert the testing resource to stop the virus entering the environment - which seems to be the plan here.

Fine if you want to kill off all the patients aged 70 and over who are patients in NHS hospitals throughout Scotland.
If the rules which had belatedly been put in place in late April 2020 were being changed then Nicola Sturgeon and Jeanne Freeman should have made an official announcement at Holyrood to their fellow MSPs.
It should not be left to a very concerned nurse to ‘blow the whistle’.

[BCram]

[url]https://capx.co/in-a-big-city-pandemic-comparing-countries-has-limited-value.
This might help your discussion. Cities seem to be the key to the higher number of deaths.

[troodee1893]

Sure I read Sweden had 4 or 5 cities bigger than Dundee, Norway or Denmark 1 or 3 each.

And Swedes have a much bigger bame population......I'll let you check, trust you to be accurate.

The main point I like the Swedish way is they have trusted their population, everyone kept their liberty and they held up their hands straight away about care homes.

This has just been a total overreaction in the UK and especially Scotland.

They have manipulated the figs from day 1 and the two ghouls Whitty and Vallance are getting away with spouting absolute drivel.

Recap 1.5 mill dead 70% of over 70s hospitalised.

Lowered to half a mill deid.

NHS overun.....was never happening

4000 dead a day by mid November even though rates in the north west were already levelling out.

Pandemic was over in April.

Covid will be here for years.

All imho.😁

As I said before I agree with a lot maybe most of what you write. You are right Sweden have 4 cities larger than Dundee. The UK have 47 cities larger than Dundee. If you take a standard figure of cities with say 100,000 residents Sweden have 9, the UK 84. I don't know about the BAME numbers other than the UK figure is 13%. Sweden do not publish such a figure but state that 20% of their population are non Swedish. This is not like for like but Sweden does have a lot of other Scandinavians living in the country. I cant prove it but think it unlikely that they have a larger BAME population but I may well be wrong!

[Returnofrros]

As I said before I agree with a lot maybe most of what you write. You are right Sweden have 4 cities larger than Dundee. The UK have 47 cities larger than Dundee. If you take a standard figure of cities with say 100,000 residents Sweden have 9, the UK 84. I don't know about the BAME numbers other than the UK figure is 13%. Sweden do not publish such a figure but state that 20% of their population are non Swedish. This is not like for like but Sweden does have a lot of other Scandinavians living in the country. I cant prove it but think it unlikely that they have a larger BAME population but I may well be wrong!

Sorry meant a bigger bame population than other Scandinavian countries.

I think around 1000 of their dead are non Swedish.

To sum up I've pretty much lost all faith in anything UK and Scottish govt are saying.

They overeacted and they have to continue down this line or admit they overeacted.

They have chosen A.......think more people are coming to this conclusion.

Graphs Whitty and Vallance put up last Saturday already 3 weeks behind so they knew 4000 fig wasn't happening but they have to continue the terrify tactics.

[troodee1893]

Sorry meant a bigger bame population than other Scandinavian countries.

I think around 1000 of their dead are non Swedish.

To sum up I've pretty much lost all faith in anything UK and Scottish govt are saying.

They overeacted and they have to continue down this line or admit they overeacted.

They have chosen A.......think more people are coming to this conclusion.

Graphs Whitty and Vallance put up last Saturday already 3 weeks behind so they knew 4000 fig wasn't happening but they have to continue the terrify tactics.

To be honest Glum & Glummer's graphs are like double dutch to me!

[BCram]

Think the point is if it was a good idea to start with, there should be an explanation why it is not a good idea now. I agree with you that it does appear to be a sensible diversion of resources but it should be simple to explain the thinking behind the decision.

[Returnofrros]

Just to be clear, you want all the restrictions to end which will end up killing thousands of over-70s but you're also complaining about over-70s dying?

🤣🤣🤣

They have hidden the bodies in Sweden.

The granny and granddad are missing.

Tier paranoia.

[Taintedice]

Why is a proud libertarian continually quoting the outcomes in a highly-socialised and ordered society, which the UK couldn't be any further away from if it tried. You and islay are two really confused phukkers, next you'll be wanting taxes raised to Swedish levels. Major difference between a country which looks after its citizens and tory britain.

[islaydarkblue]

Why is a proud libertarian continually quoting the outcomes in a highly-socialised and ordered society, which the UK couldn't be any further away from if it tried. You and islay are two really confused phukkers, next you'll be wanting taxes raised to Swedish levels. Major difference between a country which looks after its citizens and tory britain.

I am fed up reading your posts on this forum continually slagging me off because I do not have the same political views as you.
However I will give you some ‘food for thought’.
I only post minor information on this forum keeping the important stuff for myself.

[Taintedice]

I am fed up reading your posts on this forum continually slagging me off because I do not have the same political views as you.
However I will give you some ‘food for thought’.
I only post minor information on this forum keeping the important stuff for myself.

Maybe if your views had any consistency I wouldn't be referring to you as confused. But they don't, they are a mass of contradictions, which usually happens when people are posting 'off the hoof', which you clearly are.