Interesting Covid statistic

[BCram]

Read up on how the Pfizer, and any other mRNA vaccine works - it's not conspiracy theory, it's scientific fact. It's pretty much exactly as I've described in fact. More proof I suppose that something sticks during five years at University.

Bit of help for you

https://www.pfizer.co.uk/behind-scie...t-mrna-vaccine

Thanks Deeranged. Read the Pfizer website you quoted. I don't see the danger in the process they describe. Is there a site that actually makes the point that you are concerned about?

[BCram]

The biggest advantage of the vaccine is the microbots that are also injected which are then used to track people. So if Ethel from Tonbridge goes missing from her care home, she can be easily found. I read that on the same website covering how the vaccine alters the DNA of the recipient so its all true.

What website?

[Deeranged]

Thanks Deeranged. Read the Pfizer website you quoted. I don't see the danger in the process they describe. Is there a site that actually makes the point that you are concerned about?

I studied genetics with the OU but it was some time ago, dredging old info from the back of the brain. I'm concerned that DNA is being altered by this vaccine; I might be wrong and it's 100% safe, but by the same token I might well be right and long term effects on the human genome might be catastrophic.

[Deeranged]

What website?

He doesn't have a website to refer to and simply suggested that my proposal regarding genetic modification was a conspiracy theory without evidence to back himself up - again.

Sad really.

[grantzer]

He doesn't have a website to refer to and simply suggested that my proposal regarding genetic modification was a conspiracy theory without evidence to back himself up - again.

Sad really.

To be fair,you posted your theory with a website to back you up, then when someone read that website and couldn't find anything to back up your theory,you backtracked. So your evidence to back up your genetic mutation theory is where?

[BCram]

There won't be mass civil unrest, this country is bowed and broken.....maybe in England and the Welsh still have a bit aboot them.

I also disagree that they will relax anything up here, Sturgeon now thinks personal freedom is hers to take or distribute as she sees fit.

The pandemic was over in April, the rest since is complete and utter overreaction and politics.

Lockdown 3 will begin here 2nd or 3rd week in Jan and last thru to spring is my guess, everyone into tier 2 May to Sept, then all go again for Autumn.

Ignore as much as you can, enjoy what's left of yer time on the planet as best you can.��

No mask, no vaccine, no knee and no new normal.

And.......stay safe��.....from what I'm not sure but ever one says it these days.

We still are not being rounded up by the police and the law is relying on the compliance of the population. My football result forecasting is rubbish so I am not very confident that vaccine treatments will provide a complete cure. I think they will allow the authorities to change their message and get away from measuring how many people have the virus and focus on the survival rates etc. The presentations on the tele will move from the numbers of infections and the threat and move towards a different set of targets. CJD was going to kill hundred of thousands, HIV was a similar mass killer, I don't think we will see the same hysteria once the vaccines are in place.

[Deeranged]

To be fair,you posted your theory with a website to back you up, then when someone read that website and couldn't find anything to back up your theory,you backtracked. So your evidence to back up your genetic mutation theory is where?

Tell you what, you tell me where genetic mutation was mentioned.

[BCram]

Tell you what, you tell me where genetic mutation was mentioned.

Nobody mentioned specifically genetic mutation but the principle of genetically modifying food is a really hotly disputed topic and I took the point that Pfizer were manipulating DNA as a scientific process that could be described as GM. If is such a hot topic for foodstuffs why isn't it a similar hot topic for vaccines like the one being made by Pfizer.
I have sympathy for the argument being made by Deeranged and wonder why it has not been a major talking point for all the usual suspects who distrust GM crops.

[Deeranged]

Nobody mentioned specifically genetic mutation but the principle of genetically modifying food is a really hotly disputed topic and I took the point that Pfizer were manipulating DNA as a scientific process that could be described as GM. If is such a hot topic for foodstuffs why isn't it a similar hot topic for vaccines like the one being made by Pfizer.
I have sympathy for the argument being made by Deeranged and wonder why it has not been a major talking point for all the usual suspects who distrust GM crops.

Pretty much the point I'm making BCram. What the vaccine essentially does is modify DNA that is to say it takes a naturally created DNA strand and alters its programming - exactly what the anti GM people are so opposed to. My concern, whether founded or not, is that this sort of modification might have an adverse effect on the long term health of the human genome.

I'm amazed that this is not receiving a higher profile public interrogation in the media. I suspect however that the relief of having any vaccine will far outweigh the objections that may be raised and in all honesty, despite the possible long term effects I've speculated, if it saves lives now I can see why it is not being questioned.

For the record genetic mutation is generally a naturally occurring phenomenon which will be randomly initiated (notwithstanding that which can occur due to radiation poisoning for example) whereas genetic modification is deliberate alteration or engineering of the gene. I can see why it would be easy to confuse the two terms but in reality they are completely different things.

Genetic mutation drives evolution whilst genetic modification should only really alter individual form and function. However it's hypothesised that modification can ultimately manipulate evolution should the form or function of the modification provide some selective advantage to the recipient.

Grantzer asked me to explain my genetic mutation theory by the way that's why I asked back that he tells me where this was mentioned.

[grantzer]

Pretty much the point I'm making BCram. What the vaccine essentially does is modify DNA that is to say it takes a naturally created DNA strand and alters its programming - exactly what the anti GM people are so opposed to. My concern, whether founded or not, is that this sort of modification might have an adverse effect on the long term health of the human genome.

I'm amazed that this is not receiving a higher profile public interrogation in the media. I suspect however that the relief of having any vaccine will far outweigh the objections that may be raised and in all honesty, despite the possible long term effects I've speculated, if it saves lives now I can see why it is not being questioned.

For the record genetic mutation is generally a naturally occurring phenomenon which will be randomly initiated (notwithstanding that which can occur due to radiation poisoning for example) whereas genetic modification is deliberate alteration or engineering of the gene. I can see why it would be easy to confuse the two terms but in reality they are completely different things.

Genetic mutation drives evolution whilst genetic modification should only really alter individual form and function. However it's hypothesised that modification can ultimately manipulate evolution should the form or function of the modification provide some selective advantage to the recipient.

Grantzer asked me to explain my genetic mutation theory by the way that's why I asked back that he tells me where this was mentioned.

No I never, I asked where your evidence was. Whether mutation or modification,you provided none,while condemning tainted for the same thing.