Nicoliar calls

[Taintedice]

Come on, the reason for lockdowns is because a deadly virus was spreading across the population.

The idea of it all being a social control experiment is a loony conspiracy theory.

Problem for Hitchens and co is they are now desperate for new lockdowns to prove themselves right.

Everyone else gets on with life post-lockdown.

Just to add, HMRC has been engaged in social control experiments against tax payers for around a decade.

[Returnofrros]

Just putting forward ideas from sources that you and others might not read. Is it not reasonable to question your own thinking? I think you are wrong to continually claim that covid denying is the basis of those who question the way that covid is being dealt with.

India is a disaster and absolutely no one is saying anything other. The initial wave did not appear so virulent as this second wave and everyone had thought that there must have been something in the population that prevented the virus from taking hold in the way it has done for this second wave.

The way that this country has operated has been by consent. The public vote for people to lead the policies and decision making in parliament. We agree to obey their laws because that's the way it works. If we don't like them we can vote for another lot to try and do better. In Scotland it is a wee bit different because there are people who prefer to vote for the SNP whilst not wanting to leave the Union. This election seems to me to be about deciding if you really want independence then vote for the SNP, if you don't want independence then do not vote for either the SNP or the Greens.

It appears to me that this democratic process is under attack, and instead of all our best brains trying to work out a lockdown free approach to living with covid, their efforts are being channelled into finding ways to enforce lockdowns.

It seems entirely reasonable to ask for a future plan that relies on an approqach to dealing with covid without lockdowns.

Very good post.

Did you know an estimated 200 to 300k marched in London at the weekend in protest against lockdowns......not reported on MSM.

[BCram]

Come on, the reason for lockdowns is because a deadly virus was spreading across the population.

The idea of it all being a social control experiment is a loony conspiracy theory.

Problem for Hitchens and co is they are now desperate for new lockdowns to prove themselves right.

Everyone else gets on with life post-lockdown.

Just to add, HMRC has been engaged in social control experiments against tax payers for around a decade.

Nobody, to my knowledge has claimed that lockdowns are a social experiment. The way that there appears to be little critical thinking about alternatives to lockdowns is surprising, and the efforts being made to frighten people to comply is worrying me.

HMRC do seem to be heavy handed. Not sure that I would describe their activities as social control but it does seem that they jump on the wee people and do deals big tax avoiders. Can't remember the figure that they failed to collect but I am sure there are some very big numbers.

[BCram]

Very good post.

Did you know an estimated 200 to 300k marched in London at the weekend in protest against lockdowns......not reported on MSM.

It didn't happen! If it isn't on BBC then it was a non event.

[Deeranged]

Nobody, to my knowledge has claimed that lockdowns are a social experiment.

I have, and I stand by it.

[Deeranged]

It didn't happen! If it isn't on BBC then it was a non event.

Yeah, this is a painting and a work of fiction - more social control, just don't tell em and they'll never know the truth.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/ant...ch-2021-04-24/

[Taintedice]

Nobody, to my knowledge has claimed that lockdowns are a social experiment.

That has been a recurring theme on here for a year, surprised you missed it.

[Taintedice]

It didn't happen! If it isn't on BBC then it was a non event.

It happened, with about 10,000 people, not a huge percentage of the population. Reported everywhere

[Returnofrros]

Yeah, this is a painting and a work of fiction - more social control, just don't tell em and they'll never know the truth.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/ant...ch-2021-04-24/

Huge turnout, will go with 200k as that seems to be the lower of the eyewitness estimates.

Everyday more and more are seeing thru covid measures and the absolute folly of lockdown.......can they pressure politicians to be brave this Autumn and resist the lockdown loonies.......somehow doubt it but would be delighted to be wrong.

[Taintedice]

From the link above:
"Several thousand anti-lockdown demonstrators marched through central London on Saturday despite restrictions on mass gatherings during the COVID-19 pandemic."

"Media reports put numbers at about 10,000, though the Metropolitan Police did not confirm a figure."

I guess everyone else was at the pub or the park or the beach, enjoying life after lockdown.