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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    No problem Andy.

    You're correct that I haven't represented anyone, nor have I had to stand in a tribunal (the idea is to avoid doing so), and I'm afraid that I wouldn't offer to represent you either. However, like all genuine HR practitioners, I'd be there to facilitate and support a fair and impartial procedure for you to operate within
    Ah but then I am not an HR practitioner! Or as they call themselves these days People Officers!!

    I represented people as a Union shop steward, I represented employers as a Manager or Consultant.

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    Regretably I'm with Swale on this one, the law looks has no morals and this is in essence about paying up his contract, and remember (and I think this matters regarding DCFC's actions) he didn't commit any crime. Derby have been badly advised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    For unfair termination of contract obvs! Now IF they had sacked the two players actually responsible for the incident, those convicted of drink driving they might have had a case. Though again that would depend upon the terms in his employment contract, one can't just impose certain conditions if they are not actually in one employment contract!

    You talk of "morality" but yours is clearly skewed if you condone the club treating one player who was not responsible for the incident differently because he couldn't play for the rest of the season, than the other two who were convicted of an offence because they could and had a value to the club.

    So if 3 teachers went on a night out and two were convicted but able to teach but one was so injured he couldn't do his job for a year, you would deem it fair and legal to sack the injured one but merely discipline the other two and retain them?

    If so then you understanding of fairness is I suggest somewhat off beam!
    But if one is then incapable of performing their duties as a result its a completely separate issue in law!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattea View Post
    But if one is then incapable of performing their duties as a result its a completely separate issue in law!
    I wouldn't bother, there's too many assumptions and inaccuracies that show up his lack of knowledge on the subject, it's not worth the effort.

    At the end of the day, the Keogh saga has been through a thorough and diligent process, therefore we must trust that the correct outcome has been achieved. If people want to argue morals, then fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattea View Post
    But if one is then incapable of performing their duties as a result its a completely separate issue in law!
    Thanks, Rats. Simon Jordan agrees too. Says he’d have sacked him and ‘paid him nothing’. Make of that what you will but I’d guess he knows more than any of us about running a football club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I'm not sure whether that means you think I agreed with you or not!
    I'm joking with you, the last bit is a twist on an old how many does it take to change a lightbulb joke. And regrettably, a bit of indirect Swale baiting- I'll stop!

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    Formula 1 drivers will have clauses in their contracts forbidding them in pursuing extreme sports between races and the off season incase of injury that prevents them from carrying out their contractual duties, I assume football players have similar clauses.

    So an example, Lawrence, Bennett and Keogh all go skydiving, they jump out - pull their chutes and all float down to the ground, Lawrence and Bennett land safely but Keogh botches his landing and breaks a leg......

    So using that analogy what do the club do, same outcome or not.......?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StensonRam View Post
    Formula 1 drivers will have clauses in their contracts forbidding them in pursuing extreme sports between races and the off season incase of injury that prevents them from carrying out their contractual duties, I assume football players have similar clauses.

    So an example, Lawrence, Bennett and Keogh all go skydiving, they jump out - pull their chutes and all float down to the ground, Lawrence and Bennett land safely but Keogh botches his landing and breaks a leg......

    So using that analogy what do the club do, same outcome or not.......?
    Easy answer, they get Nico Hulkenburgh in and he's MOM in the next game

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    I was thinking more Paul da Resta

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