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    Be natural in interviews and don’t be scared to say “ I don’t know” rather than waffle. Also if you have them ditch the piercings and cover up the tattoos.

    Bloody hell Grist, the woke police will be after you,....take care, i agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    Whoooaaa, hang on wendun. That's not fair mate. Academia is important and is one measure of intelligence. But that's what it is ONE measure of intelligence. There's some right thick sods who simply know how, get taught how, to pass exams. Look at George Osborne by way of example. If he'd gone to Winfield Comp and not Eton, he wouldn't now be a millionaire. Yet he'd have the same brain.

    Some of the brightest, most productive, ingenious, WEALTHIEST people I know hardly have a qualification to their name.

    You can't teach common sense!
    Sir Richard Branson with not one jot of an achievement to his name.....the rest is history. You make what you can out of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wendun View Post
    As G.B. Shaw said only the English working class glorify ignorance. The rest of the world knows the value of education. Lots of people can mine coal or drive a truck but I suspect that medical and technological advances are made by people with degrees. I doubt very much that a cleaning lady was much use in devising the vaccines against covid. You really are a bunch of numpties.
    Wendun, you couldn't have done my mining career you sound to pappy and I'd like to see you drive and control a 44 tonne truck. I bet you find it hard parking in reverse in a supermarket car park

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTMilller View Post
    This is an interesting thread. So many different paths taken. It just shows there are many routes to fulfilling your potential and being academically gifted is neither a sure-fire route to success or a particular blessing. Interesting to see new dimensions to familiar faces - Scum and Brin being two cases in point.

    Having rather dismissed my own education as a contributing factor to any success I had in my career, I can easily make the point that a mixture of a simmering vocation and bloody hard academic training will also pay dividends - in the case of the younger of my two sons.

    Luke is now 31 and did well at an international school in Singapore. He went on to the University of Bristol where he got a First in Politics and Sociology. Having done that he realized he'd been going in the wrong direction and needed to be useful to people rather than an academic (He was a little in the mould of Scum in that he'd volunteered as a crisis counselor for the university - and had actually talked somebody down off a bridge, apparently.)

    He really wanted to be a doctor and set about becoming one. We were already living in the US by then and he decided qualifying there rather than the UK would make him happier. He had to bridge the gap academically since he had no real basic education in physics, biology, chemistry etc so went to a college in San Francisco (Mills) where he did a two year Post-Bac Pre-med course to make him eligible for medical school. Hard, hard slog for somebody who had leaned towards the Liberal Arts for most of his education.

    He took his MCAT exams, did well and was accepted into the Medical School at the University of San Diego. Another four years of intensely hard slog with regular, life defining exams that could knock you back.

    in 2018 he qualified as a Doctor and took a four year residency in Obstetrics and Gynacology (OB/GYN) at the University of Michigan Hospital in Ann Arbor. This is really only the beginning since you are the lowest of the low and are still learning, learning, learning.

    He's now about to start his fourth year residency, has delivered something like 380 babies and performed 120 C sections and countless other surgical procedures. Doing this during the pandemic with patients in the ICU who had the virus was no joke.

    He has about $300,000 of debt for his education and currently earns $56,000 a year. (His peers not in the medical profession would be earning three or four times this much.)

    After finishing the residency next year, he plans do to a two year Fellowship which will making him a leading name in at-risk pregnancies. More learning and studying - though he will be creating knowledge as much as learning from others.

    To me, this is what education is about and what makes it worthwhile.
    CT, excellent read and well done Luke. On my Wife's last count, she had delivered just a little over 800+ babies throughout her career so Luke has some way to go yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brin View Post
    Sir Richard Branson with not one jot of an achievement to his name.....the rest is history. You make what you can out of life.
    Maybe but Branson is an “old stoic” ie he attended Stowe School, an independent school in Buckinghamshire

    He’s not an ex pupil of Gas Lane Comprehensive or somewhere similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brin View Post
    Sir Richard Branson with not one jot of an achievement to his name.....the rest is history. You make what you can out of life.
    Yep, throw Sir Alan Sugar into the mix also Brin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Maybe but Branson is an “old stoic” ie he attended Stowe School, an independent school in Buckinghamshire

    He’s not an ex pupil of Gas Lane Comprehensive or somewhere similar
    I was a member/club champion at Stowe School Golf Club and at the same time my Dad was a member/captain at Roundwood G.C. and I can certainly confirm that they are World's apart. I don't remember Capability Brown having much to do with the Parkgate landscaping

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMiller View Post
    I was a member/club champion at Stowe School Golf Club and at the same time my Dad was a member/captain at Roundwood G.C. and I can certainly confirm that they are World's apart. I don't remember Capability Brown having much to do with the Parkgate landscaping
    CAM, you appear to have championed many a 'hole' throughout your life.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMiller View Post
    I was a member/club champion at Stowe School Golf Club and at the same time my Dad was a member/captain at Roundwood G.C. and I can certainly confirm that they are World's apart. I don't remember Capability Brown having much to do with the Parkgate landscaping
    More Calamity Jane than Capability Brown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brin View Post
    CAM, you appear to have championed many a 'hole' throughout your life.....
    Not sure about that but as a bi***ual old Stoic I believe George Melly certainly did as he moved from one early in life to another in his later years.

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