Manchester City v Barnsley Match Thoughts

[Acido]

wot tha onnabart ? Match v Rov was at Oakwell , Wi wun four nowt , Tony Stewart thru an hissy fit ( inniz creeum suit ) sumdi decked him int car park for shartin abuse at BFC staff , mardy fat gett !! His brother's far worse ,

Im on abaart this time 4 (or was it 3) years ago, the last pre season friendly when they whacked us. We lost at Bristol City the following week on the opening day, and Dic*khead Bird went sucking up to the Blunts.

[animallittle3]

wot tha onnabart ? Match v Rov was at Oakwell , Wi wun four nowt , Tony Stewart thru an hissy fit ( inniz creeum suit ) sumdi decked him int car park for shartin abuse at BFC staff , mardy fat gett !! His brother's far worse ,

He's referring to a pre season game Roma under Hecky .

The year we went down under Morais .

[Acido]

Bit of a difference in the quality of the opposition Acido from that day . To say the least .

Err yes I know that lad lol, and I was hoping to be a bit sarcy in what I said. Yes we know what an amazing team Man City are, but that was my and your worry wasnt it, will we learn anything from today as it was a bit of a thrashing in the end.

[animallittle3]

Gulf in class that’s all that was. I think with Val’s style it may have been more to be honest because we would have kept giving them the ball with the long ball.
Just what is the value of the team City put out even with the young ones in?

Absolutely Poggy .

Some of the talent on show this evening from City isn't something we will face in the championship every week .

That lot tonight would walk the championship .

[Romared]

He's referring to a pre season game Roma under Hecky .

The year we went down under Morais .

Ok Animal my mistake ,

didn't we score the first ever goal at that new ground ? Jacob Mellis

[Romared]

Err yes I know that lad lol, and I was hoping to be a bit sarcy in what I said. Yes we know what an amazing team Man City are, but that was my and your worry wasnt it, will we learn anything from today as it was a bit of a thrashing in the end.

if we carnt beeut teeurms like Citeh it's time to pack in !!

[animallittle3]

Err yes I know that lad lol, and I was hoping to be a bit sarcy in what I said. Yes we know what an amazing team Man City are, but that was my and your worry wasnt it, will we learn anything from today as it was a bit of a thrashing in the end.

But I didn't compare it to the 4-0 hiding at the NYS , you did .

I however still maintain it probably wasn't the greatest decision to play City in our last warm up game .

For me personally we didn't see enough of the ball and if you are transferring to a more possession based style it's perhaps a good idea to see a bit more of the ball than we saw tonight .

What we got from the game is debatable , the positives are that Sibbick , Ben Williams and Benson have to start next Saturday .

That's probably about it .

[Acido]

Err yes Animal I compared it sarcy like. Do you think Im actually comparing Man City in the present day, to that Rotherham Fc team of 4 years ago!!.

Well anyway the debate goes on, should we have stuck to the Watford away game. Would that have tought us anything better or different ehh, regardless of the result ?.

[animallittle3]

The way I see it is this and it's just my opinion .

The way the game has evolved today is that in order to be successful consistently you have to be able to pass that ball from back to front .

Ignoring the flaws within a group of playwrs and going with a more direct approach will only probably reap short term rewards .

You simply have to work with your players and improve them if you are to be successful in today's game .

I'm not going to disrespect the results Val got out of this group of players but at the same time I'm asking if he actually improved us going forward .

I take the point from a confidence point of view he probably did as decent results will always be good for confidence .

As young footballers wanting to develop and improve their technical ability is perhaps my point .

Schopp sees it another way and perhaps more in tune on what we are trying to achieve at this club with the model we operate with .

We finished 5th last season with 78 points but the elephant in the room is the fact nobody higher up the football food chain is breaking their necks to sign any of our players .

That goes totally against what the model is all about .

Signing young players , developing them and selling on for a good profit and increasing our revenue streams to compete effectively at championship level .

That's the model , like it or not .

The play off place and the way we achieved could well have held the club back 12 months .

This isn't any kind of criticism of Val by any means but I'm simply pointing out what this clubs model is all about .

[Young_Nudger]

This is why I think the club have recruited Devante Cole .

Cole has the pace to run in behind which is something we haven't had .

I wouldn't expect Devante to score a shyte load of goals but I think he could be a very shrewd signing none the less .

It's a long old season Nudge .

I know it’s Man City …… but my confidence for the season has taken a hit.
So hell knows how the players feel.

Some big holes to patch up.
Odour ball watching for 2 of their goals.
Kitchen, Moon and Brittain clearly not up to speed.
I don’t know why but Oduor and Brittain never threatened going forward.
Millar coming on for Brittain at wing back is a clear indication that Schopp is still trying to understand the players and tactics.
As for Woodrow - in the 16th minute he took a touch when he should have buried it - then later nearly dragged the shirt off one of their players backs to give them their penalty.
Then lost their player on the back post for their 4th goal.

On the plus side - Collins, Styles, Palmer, Benson, Helic, Sibbick, B,Williams ….. all played relatively well.
Even tho our attacking strategy was all over the place Morris and Frieser tried hard.

On the plus plus side …… we have Obbi, Cole, J,Williams and hopefully Leya to join the squad.
Also Mads needs to get back ASAP on that showing.

Thankfully for the rest of the season we won’t be facing teams as good as Man City.
So it’s going to be interesting to see how these new Schopp tactics work against lesser opposition.
Personally I think we will become unstuck.
I’d prefer it if we stuck with tactics of the big pounding hammer.