Leeds Utd,schizophrenia & Leeds Mad

[Monaco_Totty]

Was recently shown above picture from May 1982.
Yep it's just a pic but for me I dot see it as 'just a pic' as my brain see's so much more.

Six members of my family are in-amongst those standing travelling Leeds fans alongside many loyal friends going back to schooldays of 1960/70s I was told.

Of course there's a story to tell of that day & many other days from said fans present - some who later got to better places in life & some who did not but they where all present that day and most are still travelling to games today by hook,crook,mutual respect with endearing life friendships requiring all to look after one another no mater what life throws at you and that goes to friends extended families.

Many of them now write books,some write weekly newspaper/media columns,some use forums & some just go to the games BUT none of them would stand by and take the personal flack & witnessed others having to either and ignore it.

My schizophrenia does alter some perspective to my views as I look at things slightly differently which to some may be difficult to understand - which I accept happens.
But I tell it as I think it and often in details that come across wrongly to some but it's the way I've trained my mind as often its battling thinking two things at once.

So for me I'll take the positives not the negatives from that national iconic photo that labelled ALL Leeds fans being hooligans, argumentative vile-animal scum as I know MOST are not and likewise on here.

Living with schizophrenia successfully without medication I have to battle and avoid certain negative emotional situations and I have to keep daily reminding myself that or to be told by others and in fairness I cope quite well.On balance my Mum expects me to come back fighting my corner which I try to do for her no matter what the situation.

As they say at my local-port - 'To reach a port we must sail,sometimes against the wind and sometimes against it.But we must not drift or lie at anchor'
Such is my life, that's a great saying.

[Ozwhites]

Was recently shown above picture from May 1982.
Yep it's just a pic but for me I dot see it as 'just a pic' as my brain see's so much more.

Six members of my family are in-amongst those standing travelling Leeds fans alongside many loyal friends going back to schooldays of 1960/70s I was told.

Of course there's a story to tell of that day & many other days from said fans present - some who later got to better places in life & some who did not but they where all present that day and most are still travelling to games today by hook,crook,mutual respect with endearing life friendships requiring all to look after one another no mater what life throws at you and that goes to friends extended families.

Many of them now write books,some write weekly newspaper/media columns,some use forums & some just go to the games BUT none of them would stand by and take the personal flack & witnessed others having to either and ignore it.

My schizophrenia does alter some perspective to my views as I look at things slightly differently which to some may be difficult to understand - which I accept happens.
But I tell it as I think it and often in details that come across wrongly to some but it's the way I've trained my mind as often its battling thinking two things at once.

So for me I'll take the positives not the negatives from that national iconic photo that labelled ALL Leeds fans being hooligans, argumentative vile-animal scum as I know MOST are not and likewise on here.

Living with schizophrenia successfully without medication I have to battle and avoid certain negative emotional situations and I have to keep daily reminding myself that or to be told by others and in fairness I cope quite well.On balance my Mum expects me to come back fighting my corner which I try to do for her no matter what the situation.

As they say at my local-port - 'To reach a port we must sail,sometimes against the wind and sometimes against it.But we must not drift or lie at anchor'
Such is my life, that's a great saying.

Like others I'm sure, I am often bemused at the length and "extra" content of some of your responses. But it's clearly a release for you and a therapy of sorts. So continue to fire away! Just remember though...people still aren't going to agree with your opinion all the time no matter what! 😉

[WTF11]

I'm guessing that this is at least in part in response to the kerfuffle about posts on another thread which were or weren't intended to be hurtful/offensive.

I'm not schizophrenic (at least we don't think so!), so can't comment from a position of knowledge, but if taking things literally is what caused the original response, then surely the "heat and light" that was generated could be reduced if not eradicated by taking equally what was said afterwards, regarding the intended innocent nature of comments, and accepting that the possibility of misinterpretation (which we are ALL capable of, with or without mental health issues) is always a risk?

I'm with Oz on the "keep posting" and on the advice regarding reactions!

[BelfastAndy]

I'm guessing that this is at least in part in response to the kerfuffle about posts on another thread which were or weren't intended to be hurtful/offensive.

I'm not schizophrenic (at least we don't think so!), so can't comment from a position of knowledge, but if taking things literally is what caused the original response, then surely the "heat and light" that was generated could be reduced if not eradicated by taking equally what was said afterwards, regarding the intended innocent nature of comments, and accepting that the possibility of misinterpretation (which we are ALL capable of, with or without mental health issues) is always a risk?

I'm with Oz on the "keep posting" and on the advice regarding reactions!

A tad insensitive me thinks bro.....

[Rev72]

A tad insensitive me thinks bro.....

WTF..insensitive..NEVER!

[Monaco_Totty]

For your information my main schizophrenia symptom is diagnosed as circumstantial thinking or circumstantial speech which often include excessive irrelevant details in my speaking or writing. I maintain my original train of thought but provide a lot of unnecessary details before circling back to their main point.

My secondary symptom is I see cartoon faces visually that appear in my vision line.
I've learnt to control that situation quite well - when unwell the faces talk to me and obviously this is diagnosed as a psychotic episode and has been life threatening.

I don't think I am guilty alone of writing long thread comments or alone in writing criticisms on here either as we're all guilty of that in fairness.

As I quoted - To reach a port we must sail,sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it.But we must not drift or lie at anchor'

[Orgoner]

To keep with the watery metaphors: ultimately, we sail this ship alone, but I'm glad your sump pump seems to be working, if that makes sense?

Better to float than sink and always know when it's best to seek a safe harbour.

I'll shut up now, but you get my drift...

[Monaco_Totty]

Yep I get your drift.

Luckily my fantastic medical research team read my comments posted weekly and do advise accordingly.

Early days for me but I'm learning to interact better in differing situations which will help me not become withdrawn so much from society in general.

Hopefully a lot will be learned via this 6 month project by myself & Psychiatric consultants.

I thought it only fair to explain to everyone & the experts will intervene for me if need be and of course Mum & Dad who check in daily.

[ozleeds]

Yep I get your drift.

Luckily my fantastic medical research team read my comments posted weekly and do advise accordingly.

Early days for me but I'm learning to interact better in differing situations which will help me not become withdrawn so much from society in general.

Hopefully a lot will be learned via this 6 month project by myself & Psychiatric consultants.

I thought it only fair to explain to everyone & the experts will intervene for me if need be and of course Mum & Dad who check in daily.

Please don't check in here daily might have an adverse effect . Seriously everything to do with illnesses just as you have goes back to the brain and how it can heal them. I know I can heal some of mine but I choose not to as more or less I have given up but I know if I put my mind to it I can change things and I'm glad as you are only a young Lass you look for help and also having parents like yours helps heaps.
Stay strong be brave as all good things can come out of it.

[Monaco_Totty]

Please don't check in here daily might have an adverse effect . Seriously everything to do with illnesses just as you have goes back to the brain and how it can heal them. I know I can heal some of mine but I choose not to as more or less I have given up but I know if I put my mind to it I can change things and I'm glad as you are only a young Lass you look for help and also having parents like yours helps heaps.
Stay strong be brave as all good things can come out of it.

Thanks Oz for that.
Yes I am very very lucky to have understanding strong family/friends for support.

Schizophrenia symptoms don't really appear until mid 20's and in England the treatment for it is poor at best with placements on long waiting lists,beds in old Hospital ward buildings and junior GP doctors handing out medication and when let out no support for independent living - living nightmare mate with high suicides rate.

No choice but to sell my flat,joined Mum,Dad & Grandma in France and now pay for private medical/mental care insurance costing €50 [£42] a month alongside the excellent free French healthcare available to me which I also contribute into via my now earned wages.

Hard to get used to paying for Health Care but Mum & Dad pay €46 [£40] a month each and get back 70% of any treatment,prescriptions they pay for including dental work and no waiting lists - so in comparisons it's worth it.

The English NHS Health Care system has a lot of rebuilding to do for sure after my experiences & the latest plans don't look good particularly for the retirees & my friends who are still in and out of hospital care who I remain in contact with.

What is the position in Australian Health Care ?