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Thread: Sliding Doors moment?

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    Comparisons

    I'm more interested in drawing parallels with Chesterfield. They seemed pretty average during the first half of last season, and then really got going under a new manager.
    In the recent fans forum, IB indicated Chesterfield made a blockbusting bid for Miller. Do they have petrol money, or a couple of Bollywood star investors. Or even mining companies from North Korea?

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    I like the ‘sliding doors moment’ idea! It is worth noting that in the film both scenarios ended up the same though…if memory serves me right!? Is the future already written, or decided moment upon moment?

    It feels like Notts as a club are going through something of a rebirth, slowly rising from the ashes. As frustrating as it may be every building block the owners and manager are putting in place right now are setting solid foundations for our future, and for the enjoyment of our kids and grand kids.

    I do believe we will rise again, though it may take a few years yet. My biggest fear is that the owners pull the plug and leave us down here, open for the likes of that Smurf fellah from Port Vale.

    As much as I don’t like them I do worry for Chesterfield, the statement from the club saying they are ‘hopefully’ going to start receiving insurance funds in the near future screams future administration to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSANHO View Post
    I like the ‘sliding doors moment’ idea! It is worth noting that in the film both scenarios ended up the same though…if memory serves me right!? Is the future already written, or decided moment upon moment?

    It feels like Notts as a club are going through something of a rebirth, slowly rising from the ashes. As frustrating as it may be every building block the owners and manager are putting in place right now are setting solid foundations for our future, and for the enjoyment of our kids and grand kids.

    I do believe we will rise again, though it may take a few years yet. My biggest fear is that the owners pull the plug and leave us down here, open for the likes of that Smurf fellah from Port Vale.

    As much as I don’t like them I do worry for Chesterfield, the statement from the club saying they are ‘hopefully’ going to start receiving insurance funds in the near future screams future administration to me.
    OMG...I'm agreeing with tallyho..!

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    I feel like after a long run of bad luck with owners we've done well with the new ones.

    Time will tell of course.

    I don't for a moment think they were expecting a quick return to L2. Every time they've spoken and every action they've taken all point to a long term strategy.

    I'm a bit worried about the brexit thing, but not keen to discuss it. Get enough politics as it is, come here for the football discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 51Magpie View Post
    I thought you may have hooked someone with that, but nothing doing. Not a bad try though.
    Strange post, Swale is not like that, not many do spend time on here trying to fool other posters, most just like to chat Notts, Swale especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfists View Post
    Strange post, Swale is not like that, not many do spend time on here trying to fool other posters, most just like to chat Notts, Swale especially.
    The problem (good or bad) was that the owners invested to much time with Ardley going nowhere,they just showed faith and trust with the wrong manager.
    The good thing about this is at least they have patience and don't bow to fan pressure,the bad thing is it has put their project behind schedule by leaving such a numpty in charge for far to long...other than than these guys are the muts nuts..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfists View Post
    Strange post, Swale is not like that, not many do spend time on here trying to fool other posters, most just like to chat Notts, Swale especially.
    That's the dream.

    I'm seriously hoping one dramatic post from UTM doesn't trigger a Reedtz In/Out debate. That would be very depressing at this point in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    That's the dream.

    I'm seriously hoping one dramatic post from UTM doesn't trigger a Reedtz In/Out debate. That would be very depressing at this point in time.
    I agree that the Reedtz are going along OK. We finished lower and went out earlier yes but I think under Ardley we weren't great alot of the time, suffered the players sulking abit and adapting to a more progressive style at first under IB which some really couldn't and then against Torquay in the playoffs I feel could have gone either way, we certainly weren't played off the park. This season, as I've been saying from day one, leagues get better in general every year as the teams push each other. Then we've had the big money spending of Chesterfield and ownership of Wrexham. I don't think we've got worse, it's a tougher league and we haven't over spent beyond our means. If that results in us steadily growing then so be it, we don't like being in this league but we really don't like being complete jokes as we have been under previous regimes.

    I just always think back to Harrogate. I'm from and live in Leeds and they don't even register round here even though its only 20 miles away. I thought we'd show them what a real football club is and instead they showed and are continuing to show in League 2. I believe they were 7 years in the making of the team that took them up and whilst I'm not suggesting we'll be here 7 years as they also came from lower down (although momentum can take you far) it means for there's a place for us to build up. I've read I think Pedro or Tshano say we've got the building blocks in for the future, we now have solid foundations, this in the current lower league climate is more important than spunking money on big wages in my opinion as their way might work but if not they're ****ed. Our way we can just get ready for the next year and make small gains which hopefully result in us having a promotion team. I also believe once we have that team that it'll take us to League 1.

    COYP

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    Agree with all of that CF. Looking back both the Torquay and Chesterfield games could have gone either way. There is no doubt the one game at home to Barnet was far easier than the Chesterfield home, Torquay away combination as we rightly weren't rewarded for finishing 3rd. I always felt we would get playoffs under NA or NA/IB but not going to match the previous season's 3rd place finish.

    Harrogate, although a very different club (history, size etc) to Notts are a very interesting case in point. As CF says built slowly over 7 years, deservedly promoted of much bigger clubs that season, finished 17th first season in L2 struggling a little throughout. Now sat in 3rd after 9 games in their second season.

    Building blocks are key, a longer term approach is essential, you need the stars to align and maybe a touch a luck and you are deservedly up.

    Anything other than overstretching, boom and bust is good with me. That option is risky, scary, and above all failed at NCFC more than once on modern times.

    COYP

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    The change of company name from Wrexham Limited to Reedtz Limited was completed on the day the Notts takeover was announced as complete. Perhaps I have put 2 and 2 together and made 5 but it seems reasonably logical?
    Apologies, you're obviously better informed than I am. I'm now a bit puzzled though. Wrexham Limited is listed at companies house as a fast-food business in Rhyl that looks to have always been owned from inception in 2005 by Peter and Hai Ling Lam. That's company number 05359816.

    Then there's Notts County Football Club Limited which seems to be the current incarnation, having been an off-the-shelf company created in 2003 and called Blenheim 1862 Limited until 2012. The Reedtz brothers were appointed directors of this entity, apparently the current football club, on 26th July 2019.

    Sorry if I'm now starting a wild-goose chase but I'm now intrigued. I don't care about any muddying of the ownership waters by King/Munto, Trew or Hardy, but it's somehow disappointing to find that our owners may have regarded the choice between Notts and Wrexham as a coin-flip. There'd always be more to it than that in a negotiation obviously, but all the same...

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