Booster Jab - Same Old Same Old

[bordering]

It's truly terrifying and we all need to get every jab - never mind that it's given under "emergency provisions" extended for another 6 months today in an almost empty House of Commons-[ my guess is more Lockdown soon] that its long term effects are unknown and currently unknowable & that the vaccine providers have total legal both criminal & civil indemnity.

Just look at the numbers and be very afraid........ the death toll from Covid is some 1.63% of all cases and the death toll compared to the population is 0.2%.


Truly terrifying.......................................

[baggieal]

Supposed to be 6 months after your last jab. We won’t be due till November as we were done in May. I don’t see the problem. Anybody complaining it would be interesting to see how well they would have done 😬

Correct Boingy - 6 months after the second jab and like me this morning you don’t need an appointment you can just walk in. Don’t forget some areas were really advanced in jabbing so they will have done their second jab before the guidelines whereas others in some other areas may have been jabbed 1 to 2 months later. I know a 50 year old without any health issues who was second jabbed where we are 8 weeks before a family member down south. It’s the way the cookie crumbles but no consistency but I suppose they don’t know take up/staffing reliability in each region and once a region receives their jabs they will have just got on with it.

[Prando]

Both ‘she who must be obeyed’ and I had our boosters at the end of Sept. (We are both post 70)
We both contracted Covid at the end of August and were fortunate that our symptoms were not overly problematical. Uncomfortable cough and a loss of taste, the latter lasted a long time. The self isolation was not too onerous, and the NHS contacted us daily (text, email or phone) during the 10 day isolation. An excellent caring and informative service.
During her working life SWMBO was a Ward Sister and needless to say therefore we were extremely vigilant in obeying Covid rules. Nevertheless, we caught it ! Extremely difficult to pinpoint where we may have caught it, given our caution !
We still wear masks in shops etc., believing that we are maybe assisting in the preventing a potential spread of the infection.
Take care all a d get jabbed.

[baggieal]

Both ‘she who must be obeyed’ and I had our boosters at the end of Sept. (We are both post 70)
We both contracted Covid at the end of August and were fortunate that our symptoms were not overly problematical. Uncomfortable cough and a loss of taste, the latter lasted a long time. The self isolation was not too onerous, and the NHS contacted us daily (text, email or phone) during the 10 day isolation. An excellent caring and informative service.
During her working life SWMBO was a Ward Sister and needless to say therefore we were extremely vigilant in obeying Covid rules. Nevertheless, we caught it ! Extremely difficult to pinpoint where we may have caught it, given our caution !
We still wear masks in shops etc., believing that we are maybe assisting in the preventing a potential spread of the infection.
Take care all a d get jabbed.

Glad you are on the mend Prando so look after yourself! Rather annoying if you lost your taste for a nice beer or wine!

[westcountryvillain]

Late to the party here but as a vaccinator myself I thought I'd share what I know, lately my shifts have only been here & there and I'm reliant on clinic owners to keep me informed of developments. They themselves are reliant on NHS England who issue updates using very long and wordy documents which is more than likely due to covering their own ar$es.

The problems start there - all centres work under a protocol and are subject to inspection by NHSE, each jab is recorded onto a single platform which is then adapted as changes arise however in some cases the user can click to proceed so it then becomes a case of discretion such as with period between 1st and 2nd jab followed by the 180 day gap to the booster. One could argue that discretion should not be allowed but consider examples such as soldiers about to go abroad on exercise, immunocompromised ****agers awaiting an operation - it's impossible to bulletproof the system.

As for being called up by text/e-mail - I've always been of the view that twice for the same matter is better than not at all, once you have had the jab the IT platform sends a notification to your doctor's surgery which the admin staff then have to add to your record.

The NHS took the right approach with boosters by keeping it simple - 180 days or more after 2nd jab if over-50 or clinically vulnerable, so as has been said those areas which got through the cohorts quicker will see younger folk being jabbed sooner than other areas.

[baggieal]

Late to the party here but as a vaccinator myself I thought I'd share what I know, lately my shifts have only been here & there and I'm reliant on clinic owners to keep me informed of developments. They themselves are reliant on NHS England who issue updates using very long and wordy documents which is more than likely due to covering their own ar$es.

The problems start there - all centres work under a protocol and are subject to inspection by NHSE, each jab is recorded onto a single platform which is then adapted as changes arise however in some cases the user can click to proceed so it then becomes a case of discretion such as with period between 1st and 2nd jab followed by the 180 day gap to the booster. One could argue that discretion should not be allowed but consider examples such as soldiers about to go abroad on exercise, immunocompromised ****agers awaiting an operation - it's impossible to bulletproof the system.

As for being called up by text/e-mail - I've always been of the view that twice for the same matter is better than not at all, once you have had the jab the IT platform sends a notification to your doctor's surgery which the admin staff then have to add to your record.

The NHS took the right approach with boosters by keeping it simple - 180 days or more after 2nd jab if over-50 or clinically vulnerable, so as has been said those areas which got through the cohorts quicker will see younger folk being jabbed sooner than other areas.

Evening WCV - for my booster today ( drop
In centre ) I was thrown as was expecting Phizer which was what I had with jab 1 and 2. This morning I was offered Phizer or Moderna and they were trying to push Moderna saying a different vaccine could offer more immunity. Needless to say as they didn’t seem to know - I went with Phizer so hope I made the right decision! They seemed clueless and gave me the booster but said due to my illness there was also a third vaccination which was not a booster. Spoke to GP later in the day and he said as far as he was aware the booster was the third vaccination.

Talk about being reassured - NOT!

[mickd1961]

Both ‘she who must be obeyed’ and I had our boosters at the end of Sept. (We are both post 70)
We both contracted Covid at the end of August and were fortunate that our symptoms were not overly problematical. Uncomfortable cough and a loss of taste, the latter lasted a long time. The self isolation was not too onerous, and the NHS contacted us daily (text, email or phone) during the 10 day isolation. An excellent caring and informative service.
During her working life SWMBO was a Ward Sister and needless to say therefore we were extremely vigilant in obeying Covid rules. Nevertheless, we caught it ! Extremely difficult to pinpoint where we may have caught it, given our caution !
We still wear masks in shops etc., believing that we are maybe assisting in the preventing a potential spread of the infection.
Take care all a d get jabbed.

I have a vision of Mrs Prando Paul......😏

https://images.app.goo.gl/jBEUCBikRFsTxmpaA

[WBA1955]

It's truly terrifying and we all need to get every jab - never mind that it's given under "emergency provisions" extended for another 6 months today in an almost empty House of Commons-[ my guess is more Lockdown soon] that its long term effects are unknown and currently unknowable & that the vaccine providers have total legal both criminal & civil indemnity.

Just look at the numbers and be very afraid........ the death toll from Covid is some 1.63% of all cases and the death toll compared to the population is 0.2%.


Truly terrifying.......................................

People have become terrified of dying from Covid and totally forgotten about the various cancer's, heart diseases/defects, HIV, Influenza, Pneumonia and road traffic accidents that can claim anyone at any age.
The media have caused the panic like they did with the fuel.
Covid is real and it can seriously harm and kill a small fraction of the population, but I am not going to spend my time worrying myself s hitless about it when I will most likely die of something else.
I have had two jabs, I had them because of my wife who suffers from Asthma but I can still get it and pass it on so what is the point?
It's far more lucrative to keep treating someone for an illness than finding a cure.

[westcountryvillain]

IMO the way out of this is to stop antigen testing and start antibody testing to establish immunity levels, if you have none get a jab, if you have some then you don't need a jab. Better use of money and spare jabs can be sent round the world.

Al - read your post about your booster experience, appalled but somewhat unsurprising as the clarity coming down the pipeline isn't good. The booster dose is exactly the same as dose 1 and 2 by the way, it's just language & unless conclusive testing has been done there can be nothing other than uninformed opinions to suggest mixing & matching will provoke a stronger immune response.

[mickd1961]

If you’re fit and well you can’t have your booster until 6 months and 1 week after your second dose.

Having it “early” isn’t supposed to be possible and even if it were the efficacy of the booster is compromised, waiting until just over 6 months is giving a 95% protection rate I read today.

Every news station reporting that almost everyone in intensive care with Covid is unvaccinated!


HELLO.......IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS THAT YOU DON’T GET DUMB ASSES?

Makes my p I s s boil........medics, doctors and nurses having to work their guts out to try and save a majority of people who just can’t be a r s e d.